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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago (5 children)

It's a good thing those righteous big brains banged the drum so much about Harris' lukewarm Palestine rhetoric. Thanks a lot you fucking idiots.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean the administration is still debasing itself daily to keep arming a genocide. They're not working very hard to harden things against trump, but they seem to still be hard at work making sure Israel has plenty of bombs. Maybe the centrists should have listened.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Congress allocates spending, not the executive branch.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, now imagine there was a law on the books that required the executive to stop arming a regime that was committing human rights abuses. And now imagine that the Biden administration flagrantly ignored that law. Now you're all caught up

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He's stopped it when he can, but there's also a law saying that we have to provide Israel with arms.

[–] Pfeffy 1 points 1 month ago

Has he spoken out in opposition of this alleged law?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I blocked most of them over the last year because the lion's share of them seemed very disingenuous. i.e. they're here only to screech about a wedge issue during an election season, to use it as a bludgeon to universally bash anyone they disagree with, and generally doing nothing but stirring up shit.

I've heard other people mention recently that those accounts have apparently gone silent.

So, let this be a lesson for the next election if we're fortunate enough to have one: If an account does nothing but screech about a wedge issue, just block them. Mods would be wise to take a closer look at those accounts, too.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

That was their goal. Trump.

[–] miak -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

From a practical standpoint, I don't see any difference between Huckabee's position and Biden/Harris's position. Biden and Harris may not be stating this explicitly, but their actions imply a similar view.
How many stern letters will Biden send to Yahoo before actually taking some action against Israel's crimes? How far will they move the goalposts to avoid pulling support for Israel?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

If you don't see any difference, then you haven't actually been paying attention to the Biden/Harris position.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah fuck those people who care about an ongoing genocide! My feelings about the recent election are more important! /s

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

How did their solution of not voting help the Palestinians?

If it didn't, and they didn't expect it to... Then their reason for not voting had nothing to do with their empathy for the Palestinians.

I hate using this word, because it has been co-opted by shitlords, but what they did was virtue signal at the expense of every trans, disabled, immigrant, leftist, gay person, and yes even Palestinian.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They said loudly for over a year that, if democrats continue to ship unlimited weapons to an ongoing genocide, that their votes would be forfeit. Maybe you disagree with that tactic, but every person has a right to vote their conscience in this country.

Democrats made the decision to explicitly exclude Palestinians from the party. Why would you think that the blame falls upon the voter and not the party that abandoned them?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

The democratic party shares most of the blame, but those that withheld their vote exhibited extremely poor strategy which have made their positions and the position of everyone they claim to care about much much worse.

They surrendered what little influence they had. Instead of trying to grow their power like evangelicals in the 70s, they chose to give up and hope that the results are so horrific it creates a left-wing backlash that can sweep in and fix everything.

Hope is not a strategy, and the most likely outcome is what little progress the American left has made over the last 30 years will be completely undone and we will spend the rest of our lives trying to get back to where we were in 2014.

They're stupid, well-meaning, idiots.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I agree, but why are we picking on the stupid, well-meaning idiots?

This election results show 10s of millions of Americans support fascism, and many different demographics failed to show up to support Kamala.

Singling out the Palestinian support just feels like Islamophobia, or perhaps an emotional reaction to being accused of supporting a genocide.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Those people aren't on Lemmy so I can't chastise them here. Believe me, I am writing incredible vitriol to Anita Dunn too

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Chances of being a hardcore religious person: 10000%

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago

Dude is/was a Baptist minister, commonly known as Reverend Mike Huckabee back when he hit the national stage.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This is zionism - a political ideology based on colonialism and genocide. There are jewish zionists, christian zionists, atheist zionists, et al. It's got very little to do with religion.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

The vast majority of zionists in usa are christian. A shared foundation is white supremacy.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

That's pretty much the same rhetoric that the russian propaganda machine has about Ukraine. So this guy can doubly fuck off.

[–] homesweethomeMrL 1 points 1 month ago

*adds Huckabee to keyword block list*