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[-] [email protected] 132 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Time to De-Google I guess. I will keep using Firefox and if or when I come across any website pulling this crap I won't hesitate to blast them to eternity. I suggest everyone else do the same please.

[-] [email protected] 70 points 10 months ago
[-] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago

How do you "de-google" when most websites expect most browsers to use chromium and start requiring this to ensure ~~companies buying ad space get the best bang for their buck~~ security?

[-] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago

Firefox and ublock origin to start. Site requires Chromium? Buh bye now.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago

I’ve been de-Googled for 6 months now and the internet works just fine on Firefox and Safari. No significant differences.

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[-] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

I agree it is an uphill battle, but it must start somewhere. Else, it only gets worse, and then movements against such abuses will get easily crushed. As I like to say, "the hardest part of a journey is the first step", but also "the future belongs to those who prepare now".

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[-] [email protected] 69 points 10 months ago

It's small, but here's a real actionable item that you can do to help:

Put a gentle "Use Firefox" (or any other non-Chromium-based browser) message on your website. It doesn't have to be in-your-face, just something small. I've taken my own advice and added it to my own website: https://geeklaunch.io/ (Only appears in Chromium-based browsers.)

We can slowly turn the tide, little by little.

Copy and paste:

<p>
    This site is designed for <a href="https://firefox.com/">Firefox</a>,
    a web browser that respects your privacy.
</p>

(I also posted this on the HN discussion.)

[-] [email protected] 45 points 10 months ago

Your browser supports Web-DRM. Some features might not be available.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

This website does not support browsers that support web-drm

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[-] Anemervi 8 points 10 months ago

One way to hide it for Firefox users.

<p class="not-firefox-warning">
    This site is designed for <a href="https://firefox.com/">Firefox</a>,
    a web browser that respects your privacy.
</p>
<style>
@-moz-document url-prefix() {  .not-firefox-warning { display: none; }}
</style>
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[-] spaceribs 43 points 10 months ago

IE in the 2000's called, it wants it's dream back.

Between this, hobbling adblockers and performing enough monopolistic acts to warrant swift government action, I really see this more as Chrome dying than the web itself.

[-] TheBat 11 points 10 months ago

Breakup Alphabet. It's the only way.

Microsoft, Facebook, and Amazon next

[-] [email protected] 41 points 10 months ago
[-] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago

That's bleak

[-] [email protected] 25 points 10 months ago

Honestly this won't effect me a ton, though I wouldn't be surprised if I have to boot up a windows virtual machine just to check my bank in a few years cause my bank doesn't know what Linux is and doesn't want go trust it. I'm mad about it but given slowly but surely I've been replacing everything with FOSS stuff. I just fear one day they will force you to use corpo approved software to use WiFi , or get cell service

[-] whatsarefoogee 16 points 10 months ago

It will likely not work inside a VM. Haven't looked into the implementation, but they will probably want to use the hardware DRM manufacturers have been sneaking into the CPUs and GPUs.

So you will be required to use "approved" CPU, "approved" OS and "approved" browser to access certain websites, as it is already the case with online streaming. You can kiss foss goodbye.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Entirely separate laptop purely for those annoying sites it is, then. At least until the approval inevitably gets cracked and can be bypassed.

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[-] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago

So this is a problem for all browsers based on Chromium right???

[-] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago

No, it is a problem for all browsers, present and future, period.

The point is that major websites, even government ones might decide to be only available on Chrome.

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[-] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

Question for anyone with more understanding of the implementation…

Doesn’t this still presume the browser tells the truth to the third party attester? Could we not build something that just straight up lies to the attester? Says I’m a good Google chrome user with no extensions please serve me ads sir?

[-] donnachaidh 8 points 10 months ago

My understanding was that the browser vendor itself would be the attester. So if Google says it's Google Chrome, it probably is. Unless you somehow reverse engineer how Google decides that it's Google Chrome and spoof that or something...

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[-] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Is there anything a person can do about it, other than using Firefox and degoogling?

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[-] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

Can you explain to someone not so tech savy what this means?

[-] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

from https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/1053748

https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/wei-wpt-other

https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/wei-wpt

these showed up after Jul 21 per GitHub “contribution activity” but are retroactively dated to 13 - they were probably private before that.

Please comment any information under this post and create cross-links to any possible posts - to create comprehensible information source.

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