Time to De-Google I guess. I will keep using Firefox and if or when I come across any website pulling this crap I won't hesitate to blast them to eternity. I suggest everyone else do the same please.
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De-google, anyone?
How do you "de-google" when most websites expect most browsers to use chromium and start requiring this to ensure ~~companies buying ad space get the best bang for their buck~~ security?
Firefox and ublock origin to start. Site requires Chromium? Buh bye now.
I’ve been de-Googled for 6 months now and the internet works just fine on Firefox and Safari. No significant differences.
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I agree it is an uphill battle, but it must start somewhere. Else, it only gets worse, and then movements against such abuses will get easily crushed. As I like to say, "the hardest part of a journey is the first step", but also "the future belongs to those who prepare now".
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It's small, but here's a real actionable item that you can do to help:
Put a gentle "Use Firefox" (or any other non-Chromium-based browser) message on your website. It doesn't have to be in-your-face, just something small. I've taken my own advice and added it to my own website: https://geeklaunch.io/ (Only appears in Chromium-based browsers.)
We can slowly turn the tide, little by little.
Copy and paste:
<p>
This site is designed for <a href="https://firefox.com/">Firefox</a>,
a web browser that respects your privacy.
</p>
(I also posted this on the HN discussion.)
One way to hide it for Firefox users.
<p class="not-firefox-warning">
This site is designed for <a href="https://firefox.com/">Firefox</a>,
a web browser that respects your privacy.
</p>
<style>
@-moz-document url-prefix() { .not-firefox-warning { display: none; }}
</style>
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IE in the 2000's called, it wants it's dream back.
Between this, hobbling adblockers and performing enough monopolistic acts to warrant swift government action, I really see this more as Chrome dying than the web itself.
Breakup Alphabet. It's the only way.
Microsoft, Facebook, and Amazon next
Honestly this won't effect me a ton, though I wouldn't be surprised if I have to boot up a windows virtual machine just to check my bank in a few years cause my bank doesn't know what Linux is and doesn't want go trust it. I'm mad about it but given slowly but surely I've been replacing everything with FOSS stuff. I just fear one day they will force you to use corpo approved software to use WiFi , or get cell service
It will likely not work inside a VM. Haven't looked into the implementation, but they will probably want to use the hardware DRM manufacturers have been sneaking into the CPUs and GPUs.
So you will be required to use "approved" CPU, "approved" OS and "approved" browser to access certain websites, as it is already the case with online streaming. You can kiss foss goodbye.
Entirely separate laptop purely for those annoying sites it is, then. At least until the approval inevitably gets cracked and can be bypassed.
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So this is a problem for all browsers based on Chromium right???
No, it is a problem for all browsers, present and future, period.
The point is that major websites, even government ones might decide to be only available on Chrome.
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Question for anyone with more understanding of the implementation…
Doesn’t this still presume the browser tells the truth to the third party attester? Could we not build something that just straight up lies to the attester? Says I’m a good Google chrome user with no extensions please serve me ads sir?
My understanding was that the browser vendor itself would be the attester. So if Google says it's Google Chrome, it probably is. Unless you somehow reverse engineer how Google decides that it's Google Chrome and spoof that or something...
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Is there anything a person can do about it, other than using Firefox and degoogling?
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Can you explain to someone not so tech savy what this means?
from https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/1053748
https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/wei-wpt-other
https://github.com/RupertBenWiser/wei-wpt
these showed up after Jul 21 per GitHub “contribution activity” but are retroactively dated to 13 - they were probably private before that.
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