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[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children)

How much can a state realistically hold off when Republicans control the house, the senate, and have a right leaning supreme court?

EDIT: In case it wasn't clear this wasn't sarcasm or anything. I'm genuinely curious.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Stay tuned for the next season of America to find out!

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Don't worry. We can tape your eyes open so you'll have to watch :)

[–] Bookmeat 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The name of the game is obstruct and delay.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So just keep delaying as much as you can until the next election that may not happen if Trump gets his way? And then once the election happens, we have to hope that the Democrats learned their lesson at the third time?

That's pretty bleak man.

[–] Bookmeat 1 points 2 months ago

There are some good obstruction techniques that others have pointed out like messing around with interstate commerce, fees, tariffs, etc, to use as leverage, too.

[–] PriorityMotif 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Illinois could start charging exorbitant tolls to Trucks to enter or leave the state and extra fees to planes coming or going to red states in order to replace any revenue lost from the federal funding. California could start charging export fees to states that don't follow climate requirements. DC could start charging security fees to the federal government and require politicians and scouts to pay for personal armed escorts wherever they go.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Almost all of that is very obviously extremely unconstitutional and would get injuncted well before it could possibly get anywhere near implementation.

[–] cmbabul 5 points 2 months ago

I feel like a broken record but idgaf at this point. This ends in civil war when troops are sent in to enforce the agenda of Project 2025

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

I'm guessing we'll see the same legal approach to things like abortion as we currently do with weed. If the fed wants to deal with it they can, but don't expect Colorado to help. Unfortunately with their new sweeping mandate from the people I expect the fed to actually care about abortion more than weed.

[–] mkwt 1 points 2 months ago

With the pace of litigation they can at least delay things for a good while. Cases still have to work their way up to the supreme court and get heard.

Regulations in the Code of Federal Regulations still have long public comment processes and take years to enact or repeal.

A Senate majority of 53 is workable, but also fragile. That's a pretty small margin for defections, and that is going to put some limits on what can get passed.

[–] Kyrgizion 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Maybe just split the fucking country up along the lines now voted and let each part do their own thing.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

except cities. millions of people who do not believe in maga politics live in cities in states that voted for trump this year.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear 0 points 2 months ago

They better hurry up and move somewhere civilized.

[–] 5parky 7 points 2 months ago

I case you haven't noticed, courts and law mean nothing to the incoming party. These states can come up with all of the lawsuits they want to, but it won't do a bit of good.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Prepare to resist. Yes, you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

What's the worst consequence if I change my federal tax withholding and just not pay any more? Or send a USPS box full of dirty pennies instead?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

Real answer: nothing...for now.

Come next year when (or if) you file your 1040, you'll be charged a penalty for underpaying your taxes.

Assuming you don't pay that, the IRS will send you a letter saying you owe them money.

Assuming you ignore it, the IRS may send an agent to your house and tell you that you have back taxes and if you don't pay, they'll press criminal charges.

Assuming you don't pay, they'll charge you in federal court.

Assuming you show up (for the love of God always show up), you'll likely not prevail and the IRS will begin to garnish your wages.

Assuming you quit your job, the IRS will begin forfeiture proceedings.

Your best bet is to run for president. I'm not even kidding. Precedence shows that running for President will allow you to push off consequences for crimes almost indefinitely. So I'd suggest that you create your PAC now and then change your withholdings.

I'm not a lawyer and this is not legal advice.

[–] CaptSneeze 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It depends. Are you extremely rich?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

So apparently you can just say you're rich on paper and people will give you money and presidencies so yes I am a gazillionaire now