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Proof of the indomitable human spirit.

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I really enjoyed this goofy meme from the solarpunk memes community 🥹

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[–] HowManyNimons 2 points 1 day ago
[–] TheDemonBuer 38 points 1 week ago

Preventing any climate change was never really an option. The climate is going to change, it already has. The goal has always been to limit the change as much as possible to keep it within the most stable and least harmful range possible. It was decided that limiting warming to 1.5C was our optimum target. We will not meet that target.

So, the best case scenario is no longer on the table, but we can still limit warming, and the harm caused by rapid, anthropogenic climate change as much as possible. Every degree, every tenth of a degree of warming that we are able to prevent will reduce harm. Therefore, we should still be working diligently to reduce human GHG emissions to net zero as quickly as possible, even if we will not be able to meet the Paris climate goals.

Make no mistake, however, it's going to be bad. Even at 1.5C it was going to be bad, it would have just been the most manageable level of bad that we felt was achievable. I'm all for hope and optimism but we need to understand that bad things are coming so that we can adequately prepare and try to mitigate the impacts as much as possible. Just how bad things get depends on what we do, and by "we" I mean all of humanity.

But while there is a floor for how bad things will be, there's also a ceiling. I think the chances of near term human extinction or the total, permanent collapse of human civilization are essentially zero. Climate change isn't going to bring on the apocalypse.

[–] JackLSauce 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

But climate change is the first existencial crisis humanity has faced!!

Besides WW2...

And nuclear proliferation...

And the hole in the ozone...

And Industrial revolution pollution...

And overpopulation...

And leaded gasoline...

[–] Cris_Color 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think this one will be harder. Confronting it requires completely changing our ways of life, and massively scaling back which is something monied interests REALLY do not wanna do, but we can still overcome.

It will be hard. And I wanna fight to do it anyway god damnit.

[–] JackLSauce 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Correct!

I don't know if necessarily harder than the others but none of them were easy

Still you may be right on that point, too

[–] Cris_Color 1 points 1 week ago

We keep fighting regardless. Only one way to find out how tall that mountain is- we make it to the top and look back down at how far we've come

Have a good day my friend!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I know the hole in the ozone later specifically was solved by a unified concerted effort to address the problem that caused it. I didn't know the details, but I assume leaded gasoline was the same.

I am not presently seeing that kind of deliberate unity on climate change.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The hole is 8.5 million miles^2.
I wouldn't consider that "solved".

I will consider the hole to be solved when it is closed—which will be decades still.

https://www.nasa.gov/earth/climate-change/ozone-layer/nasa-noaa-rank-2024-ozone-hole-as-7th-smallest-since-recovery-began/

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

I'll consider "consistent effective progress along a long recovery route" close enough to "solved" for this particular conversation.

We saw a problem, took action, and the situation has improved since we took action.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Im totally doomer but I will try till my last breath. For me its the elevator thats crashing to the ground and I am going to try and jump last minute regardless of the physics of it all.

[–] Cris_Color 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We're gonna give it everything we got, and if we fail we know we did everything we could 🫂

Keep fighting my friend

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Exactly. Im going down knowing I went down not that I took a dive.

[–] Cris_Color 1 points 1 week ago

I appreciate you, and everyone else who does the same

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Cris_Color 0 points 1 week ago

I'm glad! 😊

[–] aeronmelon 7 points 1 week ago

Christopher Walkin is an ascended being, one does not simply intimidate him.

[–] Electric_Druid 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Hell yeah, miss me with that hopeless shit

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Perfect match of images to theme.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is the image really low res?

[–] Cris_Color 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It doesn't seem that low res for me, but I'm on my phone 🤷‍♂️

If you're also on mobile, maybe it's your client? Perhaps it doesn't like crossposts?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I just checked by login into another instance. It seems that my instance screwed up after the last upgrade. Every image is postage sized.

[–] Cris_Color 0 points 1 week ago

Well that's not super helpful 😅 hope they're able to get it fixed, that sounds like a pain

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Ye bwoy keep going we got this. Never too late to try and achieve