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[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Ammonia was first manufactured using the Haber process on an industrial scale in 1913 in BASF's Oppau plant in Germany, reaching 20 tonnes/day in 1914.[12] During World War I, the production of munitions required large amounts of nitrate. The Allied powers had access to large deposits of sodium nitrate in Chile (Chile saltpetre) controlled by British companies. India had large supplies too, but it was also controlled by the British.[13] Moreover, even if German commercial interests had nominal legal control of such resources, the Allies controlled the sea lanes and imposed a highly effective blockade which would have prevented such supplies from reaching Germany. The Haber process proved so essential to the German war effort[5][14] that it is considered virtually certain Germany would have been defeated in a matter of months without it. Synthetic ammonia from the Haber process was used for the production of nitric acid, a precursor to the nitrates used in explosives.

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[–] MataVatnik 59 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I was more alluding to the fact that derivatives of his nerve agents were used to gas prisoners in concentration camps (Zyklon B)

From 1919 to 1923 Haber continued to be involved in Germany's secret development of chemical weapons, working with Hugo Stoltzenberg, and helping both Spain and Russia in the development of chemical gases.[12]: 169 

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During the 1920s, scientists working at Haber's institute developed the cyanide gas formulation Zyklon A

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By 1931, Haber was increasingly concerned about the rise of National Socialism in Germany, and the possible safety of his friends, associates, and family. Under the Law for the Restoration of the Professional Civil Service of 7 April 1933, Jewish scientists at the Kaiser Wilhelm Society were particularly targeted. The Zeitschrift für die gesamte Naturwissenschaft ("Journal for all natural sciences") charged that "The founding of the Kaiser Wilhelm Institutes in Dahlem was the prelude to an influx of Jews into the physical sciences. The directorship of the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute for Physical and Electrochemistry was given to the Jew, F. Haber, the nephew of the big-time Jewish profiteer Koppel". (Koppel was not actually related to Haber.)[12]: 277–280  Haber was stunned by these developments, since he assumed that his conversion to Christianity and his services to the state during World War I should have made him a German patriot. [39] Ordered to dismiss all Jewish personnel, Haber attempted to delay their departures long enough to find them somewhere to go.[12]: 285–286  As of 30 April 1933, Haber wrote to Bernhard Rust, the national and Prussian minister of Education, and to Max Planck, president of the Kaiser Wilhelm Society, to tender his resignation as the director of the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute, and as a professor at the university, effective 1 October 1933. He said that although as a converted Jew he might be legally entitled to remain in his position, he no longer wished to do so.[12]: 280

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago

I didn't know that aspect. Thanks for sharing.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Cyanide is not a nerve agent

[–] MataVatnik 21 points 1 week ago
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How does this affect the morality of their actions?

This is correct information, but not meaningful, possibly damaging, in regards to the indented message.

[–] MataVatnik 1 points 1 week ago

Hes right. We gotta stay true to the science even through our shitposts.

[–] Glitterbomb 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I find it fascinating that this exact process that was discovered in order to create weapons during war is also whats used to create the majority of the worlds industrial fertilizers. It's singlehandedly the biggest leap in food production ever, more than GMOs or crossbreeding or anything. It's basically the main reason we are able to support a global population in the billions. We've used it so much that we are dependent on it

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

It's basically the main reason we are able to support a global population in the billions

Ah, so now I know who to blame

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Similarly, the process for purifying aluminum is still the same as it was when it was first invented. Prior to the discovery of the Hall-Héroult processes in the mid 1800’s, (two men discovered the same process at the same time in different parts of the world,) pure aluminum was extremely rare. It used to be considered a fine metal, more expensive than silver or gold; Napoleon famously had aluminum silverware that he would use (instead of real silver) when he wanted to impress guests.

[–] Glitterbomb 4 points 1 week ago

Heck yeah, the Washington monument in DC is capped with aluminum like how the egyptian pyramids used to be capped with gold, because aluminum used to be a precious metal. (Sure, its a nice lightning rod too) Now it's so common you can find it in the trash on the side of the road

[–] feedum_sneedson 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What the hell are you going on about?