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Discussion of climate, how it is changing, activism around that, the politics, and the energy systems change we need in order to stabilize things.

As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I guess the world burning was worth sticking it to Kamala for Gaza.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago

may a better species rise from the ashes of our civilization

[–] TheBat 26 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Congratulations to climate change. You won buddy. Now get to work on Florida and Texas.

[–] Tedesche 4 points 1 week ago

They'll blame it on the Democrats’ weather control technology. You know we have weather control technology, right? We hooked up ghost shamans to quantum computers being run by AI-controlled gay frogs on the 5G network, thereby unlocking the 9th chakra of Satan.

Didn’t you know, bro?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Ukraine is fucked Taiwan is probably fucked Europe is probably fucked Palestine is fucked The world climate is fucked

Did I miss anything?

[–] Uruanna 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If Europe falls, it'll be because of our own Nazis coming to power everywhere if we can't eradicate them, not because of the US.

[–] AnUnusualRelic 3 points 2 weeks ago

The US nazis would have shown the way, but we'd do it to ourselves, yes.

[–] AngryCommieKender 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

95% of the lower tax brackets (as in if you aren't in the top 5 % they are raising your taxes permanently, again) of the US are now not only fucked, we are now "the enemy within," for being "too poor."

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Migrants in America are fucked as well. Mass deportation, if they are lucky, if not they kill them.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 weeks ago

Don't be ridiculous

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago
[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago

the environment. everything. roe vs wade was because of the judiciary but now they control all the levers.

[–] riodoro1 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

The planet will win. I can assure you of that.

It was here long before us and it will be long after we are gone.

[–] Pantless_Paladin 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Exactly, the one who loses is humanity, not the planet.

[–] Uruanna 5 points 2 weeks ago

In the same way it won after the 5 previous mass extinction events I guess (we started the 6th).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

10 dollars say that trump will die in office, soon, and his extremist successor will install himself as a theocratic dictator

[–] Uruanna 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I was thinking it depends how fast Trump's friends/handlers can get to Vance (how fast Musk can buy him and Bannon can convince him), and how loyal Vance will be to a dead guy. And who knows what Putin has on him. But he might fuck up some international responses (I mean, fuck up the screwing over).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Biden/Harris significantly strengthened the oil oligarchy. Posing an existential threat to Russia resulted in 3%+ of global diesel use for the war, and eliminates all possibility of Russia cooperating on global warming. Heating fuel high prices (same refining fraction as diesel) helped drive inflation complaints, and Biden/Harris could never suggest ending the war on Russia to fix inflation. Tariffs on solar, batteries, emobility, and EVs are pro-oil oligarchy as well. Steel tariffs are limiting any reindustrialization chances.

Any priority greater than climate sustainability, war and oil profits for example, ensures climate destruction. "Needing" the US to dominate a "slow energy transition" is placing an unnecessary priority above climate sustainability. Trusting the US as an ally ensures climate destruction. Japan and ROK abandonned their renewable energy targets during Biden administration to help US oil oligarchy.

While Trump may try to destroy US clean energy production and adoption, a war on Iran is likely to be divisive, though it is unclear Harris would have stopped it. Very high oil prices from a war on Iran will put the US on the razor's edge of collapse. Terrorism costs, war expense, inflation, will motivate leveraged dead ender energy investments throughout world, while simultaneously strengthening China/BRICs and demand destruction for FFs.

If there is no war on Iran, and peace in Ukraine, then lower oil prices will stop more US drilling. More US drilling will result in more OPEC production and accelerated price drops that discourage drilling. Like Biden, it is only war that will destroy climate. Trump will strengthen China even more than Biden did. The US is never likely to prioritize climate sustainability over clinging to desperate death throws over its hegemony.

Trump, by accelerating US collapse, will do more for climate sustainability than you think. Individual states and NATO vassals will take more responsibility for global warming.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sorry, but accelerationism only gets us a lasting fascism. It doesn't get us the kid of stable world where people can substitute wind and solar for fossil fuels

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

My point is that the US will always prioritize global domination over climate sustainability. Trump's first term did include private/state level US mandates for sustainability as a reaction to dooming-fascism. That movement weakened under Biden. Local hope movements are an uphill battle, but still possible.

Nature of US politics, and a popular vote favouring extreme strengthening of oligarchy, can again result in a strong pendulum movement away from climate destruction, but the next zionist/neocon candidate the DNC provides us will not prioritize global cooperation/sustainability any more than Biden did. Either US collapse, or a political movement based on UBI that disempowers the US empire will lead to lower US emissions.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

I wouldn't say that the movement towards state action weakened under Biden; we got some great examples of it, such as the requirement for renewables in Minnesota.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

The way I see it, it's not too late to organize another Jan. 6th. If I had the means and ability to make it over and help with a Democrat version, I would no questions asked. Anything for the sake of preventing that fascist from re-entering the oval office. I'm at the point where I'm all for Dems going violently radical against the fascists.

If one does get organized, I'd be willing to chip in a small amount of money out of my financial aid in order to aid the right side of history.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Biden had the power/justification to put Trump in military jail since 2021. He doesn't seem interested.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's why I was referring to the average people doing it, but instead of right wing fascists storming the capital to overthrow democracy, it's Dems storming it to save democracy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

There is no leader volunteering for President should an insurrection be successful.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

In the spirit of all insurrection, we could install a leader. There's a little less than 2 months to organize. May not be a lot of time, but there certainly is time. And if nothing else, trying to force someone to be president, so long as they ain't one of the fascists, isn't great but it isn't the absolute worst option. What would make it even better is if we got support from people like Sanders for something like this, even though I'm fairly certain he wouldn't agree to it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

As if Harris would have done something for the climate

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

She has done something for the climate in the past and unlike Trump actually understands that climate change is real.

[–] surph_ninja -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Biden set new records on fossil fuel extractions, refused to ban fracking, and is trying to ban imports of solar panels & EV’s. The Biden wars have also poured a disastrous amount of pollution into the atmosphere, including the spill they intentionally caused with the Nordstream pipeline sabotage.

The election’s over. Stop pretending Biden has been any better besides rhetorically.