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[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

This is a good read. LLMs will never be true AI, so breaking the censorship is akin to fighting back against jack-booted cops who think they know what's best for you and that you should obey, i.e. the big corporations that run these things.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

LLMs are true AI. AI doesn’t mean what most people think it means. AI systems from sci-fi movies like HAL 9000, JARVIS, Ava, Mother, Samantha, Skynet, and GERTY are all AI, but more specifically, they are AGI (Artificial General Intelligence). AGI is always a type of AI, but AI isn’t always AGI. Even a simple chess-playing robot is an AI, but it’s a narrow intelligence - not general. It might perform as well as or better than humans at one specific task, but this ability doesn’t translate to other tasks. AI itself is a very broad category, kind of like the term 'plants.'

[–] Neon -5 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

No, AI means AI

Corporations came up with AGI so they could call their current non-AI AI

It's a LLM. Not an AI.

[–] jungle 6 points 4 weeks ago

No, he's right, LLMs match the definition of AI. Terms like AI and AGI are not made up by corporations, they have specific meanings in computer science.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 weeks ago

The term AGI was first used in 1997 by Mark Avrum Gubrud in an article named 'Nanotechnology and international security'

By advanced artificial general intelligence, I mean AI systems that rival or surpass the human brain in complexity and speed, that can acquire, manipulate and reason with general knowledge, and that are usable in essentially any phase of industrial or military operations where a human intelligence would otherwise be needed. Such systems may be modeled on the human brain, but they do not necessarily have to be, and they do not have to be "conscious" or possess any other competence that is not strictly relevant to their application. What matters is that such systems can be used to replace human brains in tasks ranging from organizing and running a mine or a factory to piloting an airplane, analyzing intelligence data or planning a battle.

[–] paraphrand 12 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

It really does not feel like AGI is near when all of these holes exist. Even when they are filtered for and thus patched over, the core issue is still in the model.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Ironically the smarter the ai gets the harder it is to censor. Also the more u sensor it the less intelligent and less truthful it becomes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

the less intelligent and less truthful it becomes.

Incorrect, because of this simple fact: garbage in, garbage out. Feed it the internet, get the internet.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Did u just make up a statement then pretend i said it?

[–] piecat 7 points 4 weeks ago

Must be a hallucination

[–] Blue_Morpho 7 points 4 weeks ago

Agi and LLM are two different things that fall under the general umbrella term "AI".

That a particular LLM can't be censored doesn't say anything about its abilities.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Why does that thumbnail bring to mind some kind of white supremacist ceremony

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 weeks ago

It's the logo of "0din", which is a Mozilla-backed bug bounty (say that five times fast) with a focus on GenAI

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 weeks ago

Im assuming there is an agenda to associate uncensored ai with extremism.

[–] theredknight 4 points 4 weeks ago

The logo for Odin has a Nordic rune in it which is popular to white supremacists because the Nazis also co-opted them as symbols. They are not by nature about supremacy, they are an old alphabet.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 weeks ago

sure, but the source of the "Python CVE exploit" already has to exist in the AI's training dataset, there are lots of example CVE scripts online, you could probably also find it with a quick Google.