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[–] apfelwoiSchoppen 51 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

This is as American as apple pie. In my city, they made the protected bike lanes so small that they can't get street sweepers in so they're filled with years is shit.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Huh. My city invested in bike-lane sized snow plows and sweepers when they installed the lanes and they’re great!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Some places make the bike lanes car lane sized so emergancy vehicles can use them to go around car congestion

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

I mean, they do fit a car if you don’t mind only having a 1/2” clearance between the curbs. It’s pretty much a car lane with a line down the middle and those bars that can fold down, but lock in the middle to stop cars from entering.

Not sure I’ve ever seen an emergency vehicle in one.

[–] jqubed 7 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

I swear I knew that!

:)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

barrier=bollard
bollard=foldable

In OpenStreetMap https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:barrier%3Dbollard

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I wish I had real bollards. The best my city will do is those floppy white reflective soft ones thay get flattened by a car the moment they're put up

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife 1 points 3 weeks ago

My house came with a real bollard, a 4" diameter steel pipe embedded in concrete, to protect its corner parking lot. It's amazing how scraped up this thing is. I suppose I should put some kind of reflectors on it, but it's more amusing to imagine dumbasses running into it at the same frequency they drive up on my lawn.

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen 2 points 3 weeks ago

Sounds wonderful.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

We have practically no bike lanes in my entire county. But there are a couple sections about a hundred feet long in different parts of the county. It's a start I guess?

[–] ChilledPeppers 34 points 3 weeks ago
[–] FireRetardant 28 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

That bike lane doesn't really look that safe anyway. With the amount of space it took, they could easily have installed more physical seperation like larger curbs, bollards, a line of trees. I don't even see the texturing they use on the asphalt to warn drivers they are exiting their lane. The current design offers no protection against drunk or distracted driving. Even something as simple as a car pulling over for a firetruck could result in a collision with a cyclist.

[–] DaddleDew 22 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

That white car further down in the picture demonstrates exactly why you need protected bike lanes. For crying out loud you could fit two cars in that lane and they still can't stay inside it.

[–] FireRetardant 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Also a good argument for that texturing i was talking about. The driver may not be aware of how far over the line they are. With the texturing it is difficult to ignore the lines.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They aren't aware, but I guarantee it's not because of the markings. Probably looking at their phone.

[–] FireRetardant 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Yes, and if there was texture it would be felt in the car. The markings I'm refering are small bumps on or beside the line. They make the vehicle vibrate and produce a loud noise when a tire drives on them. It might make them look up from their phone

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I see now. "Might". I would much like the tree separation you mentioned, not only a physical barrier but a noise and wind breaker. But it would cost more... :(

[–] FireRetardant 3 points 3 weeks ago

My understanding is they are very cheap to install relatively speaking. All lanes should really have them, they are really useful even for regular driving. For example if you have to cross a shoulder line or center line it can give the driver a better idea of exactly where the line and their vehicle is. They also help find the shoulder or center line if some snow is covering the paint. If pulling over all the way onto the shoulder, you know when you are completely out the lane after the second set of vibrations.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

Which is why I always ride on the sidewalk. In my city the bike lane (assuming there is one) is separated by nothing but a line of paint. You'd have to be suicidal to use that shit.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago

There's an empty lane RIGHT THERE

So close

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago

fuckcars moment

[–] vxx 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Why does it say "Lane Bike" on the road? Do people suddenly start reading from bottom to top when they're driving?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Lots of markings on roads follow this pattern. I think the logic is that the closer (bottom) text comes into focus first.

But yeah, when you look at it, it just looks backwards

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The problem is that humans are not Xerox machines and we don't read by a direct line moving ahead of us, but instead we focus on objects. If the "LANE | BIKE" sign were separated by fifty feet it would be logical, as each line would be its own distinct object, but by having them so close it actually inhibits attribution.

[–] vxx 4 points 3 weeks ago

I would argue that as soon as that's the case and letters have to be spread far and wide, a sign might be more appropriate.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

I mean, I didn't even notice it was written backwards until these comments, so obviously some of us have already learned to read it that way.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

I think it's how they do it in America (I was watching a video of James May reviewing a cybertruck, and he commented on markings that say things like "Xing Pedestrian"). It makes a certain kind of sense, I suppose.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

AVOIDING THIS SIGN

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Why am I not surprised that this is Dana Point...

[–] taiyang 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I thought I recognized that road! You see this shit all over OC, but at least there are places to bike.

[–] f314 2 points 3 weeks ago

That bike lane is a place to bike in the same way a tightrope over some rapids is a bridge…

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

Same kinda genius who programs it with "KEEP YOUR EYES ON THE ROAD", but more dangerous.

[–] Sam_Bass 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

especially when they have to go around the sign

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

“High instances of bicyclists swerving into road in this area”

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