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[–] 486 25 points 1 day ago

I was really sceptical of the CTOs first response, but this does actually seem to be genuinely good news.

[–] inb4_FoundTheVegan 33 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I'm nerdy enough to use bitwarden but not nerdy enough to truly understand this.

Can someone explain it like I'm 5?

[–] CriticalMiss 74 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Sure. The majority of the BitWarden client is licensed under the GPL, which categorizes it as “free software”. However, one of the dependencies titled “BitWarden-SDK” was licensed under a different proprietary license which didn’t allow re-distribution of the SDK. For the most part, this was never a problem as FOSS package maintainers didn’t include the dependency (as it was optional) and were able to compile the various clients and keep the freedoms granted by the GPL license. However, a recent change made BitWarden-SDK a required dependency, which violated freedom 0 (the freedom to distribute the code as you please). BitWarden CTO came out and said this was an error and fixed this, making BitWarden SDK an optional dependency once again which now makes BitWarden free software again. For the average joe, this wouldn’t have mattered as BitWarden SDK contains features that are usually favored by businesses and the average Joe can live without. So everything now returns back to normal, hopefully.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

This seems like classic corporate backtracking when their customers spot a terrible, deliberate decision.

That being said, I am happy about it. I got my company to use it and finally got my girlfriend to use it and just recommended it to her brother. Would hate to have to try to find something else

[–] douglasg14b 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

This seems like classic corporate backtracking when their customers spot a terrible, deliberate decision.

I didn't think that's the case here

However, would you rather that the feedback of users NOT change behavior? I'm not entirely sure what your end game is here, you WANT corporations to ignore and not take action on feedback?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Why do they have to "WANT" that? Ignoring the fact that they literally said they were happy it was changed back, why does that matter to the criticism? If it's true, it's true, and the fact that corporations are the ones in a position to habitually make terrible decisions about FOSS is a big problem. It's valid to point out that it would be good to find a better way.

If anything it sounds like you "WANT" to ignore it.

[–] CriticalMiss 1 points 11 hours ago

I don't think so, to be honest. The bitwarden-sdk had been there for a VERY long time and you could always compile without it. Not being able to build a FOSS client wouldn't hurt bitwarden's bottom line too much. Most people use whatever is provided in the app stores (which is compiled with the source available sdk).

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Now could you explain it like I'm 4?

[–] sunbytes 1 points 1 hour ago

You don't know any 5yo software engineers?

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Free software had a non-free extra bit that it technically didn't need. Accidentally got changed to need the non-free part in order to run which caused news stories. Now the change has been reverted so it's free again.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Now could you explain it like I'm 3?

[–] soul 31 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Free cookie recipe not really free because oopsie! Man fixed it now. Cookie recipe is free again! Yay!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Now could you explain it like I'm 104?

[–] LouNeko 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Now could you explain it like I'm 2?

[–] WindyRebel 8 points 1 day ago

NO, LouNeko! No touchy non-FOSS.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Cool.

I just started using Bitwarden almost a year now. I don't know how I lived without it before? It's nice to know I wont have to switch to something else.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago

I've been using it for years, I'm so glad I don't have to switch

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Initially Bitwarden was one of the most impressive FOSS password managers, but their increasing willingness to trade user privacy for services and promotion by our favorite surveillance capitalist's is the real issue imho. Believing Privacy and Security are inextricably linked, I cannot recommend, nor use them at this time.

A quick scan on Blacklight (TheMarkup's Privacy Tool) is an eye opener.

https://themarkup.org/blacklight?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbitwarden.com%2F&device=mobile&location=us-ca&force=false

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago

This is an interesting tool that I'm going to back pocket, so thanks for that. That being said, any trackers and such on Bitwarden.com root page isn't really indicative of the real product, though I'll say it reflects poorly. That page basically is a sales pitch put together by probably a completely separate marketing team.

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