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"Whether you hate me, like me or are indifferent, do you want the best car, or do you not want the best car?" [Apartheid Manchild] told audiences at an event in November.

Well, for starters I don't want a car at all. I'd rather use public transit. You know, an actually effective means of reducing emissions.

If I were in the market, yes, I would want the best car. Which is why I'd never buy a Tesla. I'd buy an XPeng or a BYD or the like.

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[–] VantaBrandon 43 points 1 day ago (3 children)

They used fake robots at their latest event. They were secretly controller by humans. Tesla is a scam company.

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[–] Alpha71 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I wonder how much longer it will be until the board of directors of the various companies he's involved in start a serious revolt and push to get him out of the company?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 14 hours ago

It won't happen. Ever since he got ousted from one of his companies he's structured his companies carefully so he can never be ousted again.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (9 children)

I'd buy an XPeng or a BYD or the like.

Well, good for you. Personally I'm not buying an internet connected Chinese car. If a car has the option of spying on you, and potentially be used in a hybrid attack, I'd prefer to get a car from a western manufacturer. And not Tesla either, Musk is too unstable and seems to be influenced by the same powers that has Trump's ball in a vise.

My current car is an internet connected EV, but it sure isn't Chinese or a Tesla.

[–] chakan2 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

China can spy on me. I feel safer with them having my info than Musk (Or if you really want to get in the weeds, GM or Ford who's happy to share that info with big insurance and law enforcement)

[–] TankovayaDiviziya 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

One is a totalitarian state who could unleash all its might on you if they wish; the other is still subject to rules and regulations despite being corrupt. I'd rather have Ford and GM spying on my information for corporate interest than a state who wants to micromanage every aspect of your life, thank you very much.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

Ideally, no spying at all. My car just gets a radio and nothing else. My phone can be a GPS with a plastic piece that is stuffed in the air grill.

As someone living in the United States, China spying on me doesn't do much. I'm not really a target for them. My data is just sold to the highest bidder, often Facebook or Google to sell me more ads.

If the US government wanted me gone, I'd be gone in 2 days and Fox News and its brainwashed masses would say I deserved it since I never voted for Trump and didn't sing the pledge of alliance every day. If China wanted me gone, they'll have to work for it and it'd be front page news that would become an October surprise.

That's my main two things. As an American, I am impacted by American laws more than China or even Canada's or Mexico's laws. If China banned me (which they have and still do, I'm a queer anarchist) I'm not super impacted by it. If America banned me (I'm a queer anarchist, they've done it before) I need to go into hiding.

Does America want to kill me? Not intentionally, at least. I don't think there's a personal FBI man watching my webcam, seeing me type up the same shitty memes I tell my friends for a quick laugh as we play games. But if America start getting more cult-y with Trump and his ilk, I have to watch my back more than if China suddenly wanted the same body on their doorstep.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Why the flying fuck would I want a western car spying on me here in China?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

As I indicated by using first person singular in my comment, I was talking about me. What car you (second, singular) get is up to you.

While I did write "If a car has the option of spying on you[...]", I hope my usage of "you" as an informal pronoun was clear. I do realize that I could have used the word "one" instead, or rewritten the sentence entirely. I wrote like I speak, and I unfortunately do not speak like an English professor.

Please remind me, where did you tell me that you live in China?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

In the same place you assumed I lived outside of it, I presume.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 34 minutes ago* (last edited 26 minutes ago)

You're the one who got mad that I didn't know that you live in China. You hadn't told me, or given me any clues. I mean there's 1.450 billion people who speak English either natively or as second language. 10 million of those live in China. That means there's a 99.3% chance that a random English speaker doesn't live in China. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_English-speaking_population

But do go on, keep staying pissed at me for something you misunderstood. I never said that you (as in you, not one) or anyone else for that matter, should not buy a Chinese EV. I said that I wouldn't, and gave my reasons why. In the meantime, while you stay pissed, I'll continue to not own a Chinese EV, maybe while telling my students about what happened in early summer 1989 on Tiananmen Square, and how Winnie the Poo is treating the Uyghurs in Xinjiang.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Because some American car company won't disappear you for having the wrong political opinion.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

I mean american aircraft companies wouldn't that is for sure!

...unless they are boeing!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

No, instead they'll let the government use you to target a bomb because you drive near someone they don't like.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya 1 points 2 hours ago

That has not ever happened (to my knowledge).

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'll never buy one, and it's 66% because of him. The other 34% is the fact Tesla's are shit quality vehicles. Geico literally refuses to insure the cyber cuck. I didn't misspell that.

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