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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 month ago (2 children)

so, like ASL (Android Sybsystem for Linux) ? :-D that would be crazy.

[–] Quetzalcutlass 36 points 1 month ago (1 children)

18/f/California.

Jokes aside, this appears to be a full virtual machine rather than something like WSL that can interact with and manipulate the host OS. You probably won't be able to do anything interesting with your Android files using it, just mess around in a sandboxed distro. So it's still good for developers who want a portable Linux environment to run things in, but not nearly as useful as a properly integrated terminal would be.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

WSL 2 is a full VM. And then there are some things microsoft are doing so you're able to access the windows partitions.

[–] Quetzalcutlass 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Right, I should have specified isolated VM. WSL and Windows are interconnected (even if some things, like accessing Windows files within WSL2, are horribly slow). Google's solution probably won't have anything like that, given their reluctance to allow users access to Android's underlying systems.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I guess the downloads, music... Folders will be available. Basically what an app can access, this should be able to access too

[–] tourist 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

can we pronounce it like "asshole"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

let me ask my wife :-D

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago

imo it's too good to be true.

[–] n3cr0 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'm still waiting for a fully GPU-rendered gnome desktop on my phone. ... and an actually working port of libre office.

[–] baronvonj 13 points 1 month ago

Yeah if this isn't a step on the path to "connect your phone to this [usb-c|thunderbolt|whatevs] dock and you get a full desktop OS, I'm not super interested.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Postmarketos is a project that already does that. You can run full fat gnome on a pixel 3a or oneplus 6, though phosh is more polished for daily use.

[–] Dasnap 11 points 1 month ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It will only run a special Google-made distro on a proprietary hypervisor.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sounds a bit like the linux container in chromebooks. Looks like Google is planning to merge chrome os and android in future

[–] AbidanYre 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Or start a new project to replace both.

[–] cornshark 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Wasn't fuchsia that project?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

RIP fuchsia.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You will need to run a full Debian VM inside of Android

[–] Dasnap 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

*full Ubuntu and you can only install via snap.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

whaaaaaaaaaaaat, stop saying that. I have nightmares enough already

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

So will this replace Termux?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Maybe..? Depends how good this Google Terminal app will be. I guess

[–] daddy32 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So that's why google is killing termux.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

How is Google killing termux?

[–] daddy32 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

By breaking the play store version often. It was not possible for author to update it for several years. Seems it got better recently, but still, to have a full fledged version of Termux, you need to install it from a different source - f-droid, ideally.

https://github.com/termux-play-store

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Side note for anyone reading, if you have an android please get f-droid, the google play store is an apocalyptic shithole and is 100% untrustable for finding safe functional apps, even very simple ones like a flashlight app or basic image gallery browser.

It is honestly apalling and I don't know how any google employees working on android get home from work at the end of the day and feel ok about the impact on the world of the thing they are working on.

The play store is an atrocious, embarassing failure that actively makes the life of anybody who interacts with it worse.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I wonder how this will effect the linux phone space (mobian, postmarketos, ubuntu touch). I hope it does not negatively impact progress by stealing attention away.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I'm pretty sure this won't have much of an impact