Successful immigration requires assimilation, which does require effort from both sides.
this post was submitted on 08 Oct 2024
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Yea that's been the main issue, not enough resources spent to get the immigrants to actually learn swedish and truly become part of society. Instead you get whole areas filled with people who don't know the language and distrust the government and civil systems, which breeds a whole host of problems.
Not to mention the bad parts from their country of origin aren't exorcized just by moving. You can't remove negative cultural problems instantly.
Sweden is often viewed as a liberal utopia in Europe
I thought it was often viewed as a place with a stark landscape full of constant murders and detectives with clinical depression.
As an Californian/Swede, it's bizarro-land where people are nice to you, the exchange rate is almost hilariously good (if you work for dollars) and people don't seem to want to take your money nearly as much.
Also the people are gorgeous and friendly, though the extreme politeness takes a lot of getting used to.
I know very little about actual Swedish culture, but I do love the Law of Jante in neighboring Denmark and Norway.
It can be summed up as: "You are not to think you're anyone special, or that you're better than us."
Americans could use a little Law of Jante.
Agreed, and there's a lot of that.
It does go a bit far and cause tall-poppy syndrome.
But it's not too bad, and America has something similar, personally I love my daughter being brought up here because you see young girls walking around almost alone, and they're not afraid, you don't see that in America because obviously they'd be terrified of being attacked. Here the fear is just gone, they feel safe to be independent.
Same law for Sweden
Having lived and worked in several countries, I think the concept of Jantelagen is rooted in the Protestant Reformation more than it being a specifically Nordic thing. Not only does it fit well with the general premise of the Protestant worldview, all countries that were early converts seem to have ingrained that particular perspective (under various names) in their collective cultures.
Also the people are gorgeous and friendly, though the extreme politeness takes a lot of getting used to.
Do you mind elaborating a bit on this? I'm interested to hear.
I'm American so for here I'm super loud, obnoxious, awkward and even rude, but that's because we're conditioned to be outgoing and friendly, while Swedes are far more reserved and communicate in subtlety.
Also there's a "right way" to do everything, and you just need to know it, I'm still learning.
I'm really feeling my autism here.
Their #1 export is band logos I can't decipher.
I figure that's fair since I can't understand what they're singing most of the time when they sing in that growly metal voice.
I never could understand ABBA either.
You watch those shows too? ;)
Some of them anyway. I really liked the Kenneth Brannagh Wallander series. The original books are good too. There's a Swedish TV version, but I've never seen it.
I did watch most of Wallander and a number of the Nordic Noir shows, but they got depressing and killed off my favorite people :p
Because it's an utopia that allows so many people to write books about bleak crimes.
[the right wing government] says it is implementing a “paradigm shift” in its migration policies [...]
Note that at the same time, the social deomocrats are trying to embrace this paradigm shift as their doing and that what is being done now is just details on their work.
government has proposed new initiatives to deport or repatriate migrants
This also includes just a vague "bad behavior", "vandel". And in examples given by government representatives it could mean things like being a victim of a crime.
don't forget the automated facial recognition in all public spaces proposal from a few weeks ago, with the defense "these laws can be repealed later, you know"
Wow I’d missed that. Honestly we need to throw out the entire parliament. They’re all broken.
i added a link. this was from the chief of police, so not a "legal" proposal yet.
Wasn’t he in hot water for corruption a while ago?
dont't think so, she's pretty new. you may be thinking of the ÖB, Bydén.
Are you thinking of this guy? https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/polischefen-mats-lofving-hittad-dod-i-sitt-hem
How about empire stops bombing, burning, and robbing the planet so we don't have massive refugee crises?
Which empire? I'd go for all of them