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The Thunderbird for Android beta is out and we’re asking our community to help us test it. Beta testing helps us find critical bugs and rough edges that we can polish in the next few weeks. The more people who test the beta and ensure everything in the testing checklist works correctly, the better!

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Unfortunately, this version violates the DSGVO by sending telemetry without being asked. This shoots the app directly into out. I hope that the developers have an insight here and remove this function as soon as possible.

[–] ouch 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Kbobabob 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] ouch 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

An elaboration would be nice. GDPR applies to Germany as-is, right? So a local privacy law expanding on EU regulation?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's just translated. Like bread -> Brot.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Leave it to the Germans to use a longer abbreviation when GSPR is right there and we're speaking Englisch

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Use a DNS firewall because when you start the app it sends telemetry data to Mozilla.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

What kind of telemetry data does it send to Mozilla?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Don't know exactly I only realized when I checked my DNS queries.

Probably, your device model, ip address, timezone and so on

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

I've been using it for a few days. It's a nice app that I plan to continue using. I'm not currently a power user but it has everything I need and has performed flawlessly to this point.

Thank you.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No way I am letting Mozilla handle my email communication.

On Android I recommend FairEmail.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

When I had an Android, I used the paid version of FairMail. Very good app, would recommend to everyone.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

I use the pro as well.

[–] Quackdoc 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Try it at the other day. Not gonna lie, it seems like a total downgrade versus K9. I'll not be upgrading.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Care to elaborate a little?

[–] Quackdoc 1 points 2 months ago

*code blocks are broken and have a fairly degraded UI *accounts and settings are hidden behind a show accounts that's terrible to reach with one hand. *the new sidebar is also terrible to use with one hand *settings is also hidden behind show accounts.

these are the issues I remember off hand, I already deleted the app

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Isn't this just rebranded K-9? What even needs testing?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well, most all of the developpement work on k9 recently has been by mozilla.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yes. Looking through K9's blog, "recently" is more than two years.

K9 didn't have a stable release for 3 years, until a previous contributor raised enough money to sponsor his work for a year or so. (Which I was happy to donate to, because K9 was starting to get really outdated UI-wise).

After that money ran out, they started working for MZLA Corp/Thunderbird more than two years ago.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (3 children)

i hope they'll still over it through fdroid too.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Given that they dont offer firefox, I dont see why they would offer thunderbird

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

but they offer fennec, which is basically firefox without the google stuff, and k9 is already in fdroid so it'd be a shame if they pull it now.

from the page it looks like they're working on getting the beta in fdroid though, so here's hoping.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Thanks TIL about fennec fox

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

The Fennec F-Droid build isn't maintained by Mozilla, but by someone else. They link to Mozilla for donations and source code, but the issue tracker for Fennec on F-Droid links to their own repo.

K-9 Mail on F-Droid is maintained by the K9-team, which works for MZLA/Thunderbird. Thus I'd guess it shouldn't take to much work adding Thunderbird to F-Droid.

from the page it looks like they're working on getting the beta in fdroid though, so here's hoping.

https://gitlab.com/relan/fennecbuild

https://gitlab.com/fdroid/fdroiddata/-/blob/master/metadata/org.mozilla.fennec_fdroid.yml

https://f-droid.org/packages/org.mozilla.fennec_fdroid/

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

K9-Mail has been and continues to be on F-Droid, while it's basically the same as Thunderbird Android, except for branding.

[–] rainerloeten 2 points 2 months ago

The low WiFi signal in the play store screenshots is stressing me out lol

[–] m4m4m4m4 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Been using K-9 for a time and tried Thunderbird - it feels kind of smoother and there are some visual overhauls but ended uninstalling it because it was hard for me to tell which mails were unread (and which ones not) in the main mail list while in dark mode. I guess I'm not the only one who felt that way and surely they will fix it but this also left me the sensation that there's not much sense in switching to Thunderbird if you're using K-9.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

K9 is Thunderbird. You'll be switching if you like it or not. If you want, write a bug report on the visibility issue.

[–] m4m4m4m4 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

K9 is Thunderbird

Seems you didn't even read my comment - but no, at least for the moment K-9 is not Thunderbird..

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

K9 has been Thunderbird for quite a while now. The name hasn't changed yet officially, but the team has been incorporated a good while ago.

[–] gedaliyah 3 points 2 months ago

Not sure why people are downvoting you, you're right.

Here's the announcement from over 2 years ago.

[–] gedaliyah 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

They are the same. It is the same app. They have announced that they will keep both K9 and Thunderbird in parallel, but the underlying program is the same - it will be only a cosmetic difference. This has to do with app IDs and user preferences, etc.

Here is the K9 Beta that is the same version as the new Thunderbird (beta) app. You are just switching from the beta back to the release.

Edit: sorry link was missing: https://github.com/thunderbird/thunderbird-android/releases/tag/K9MAIL_8_0b1

[–] binom -3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

we don't need another mail app. they should've just supported FairEmail. it's great and works flawlessly. developed by one guy who does not get enough in return. if you can, support him by buying the premium version and yourself by switching to the best android mail client. https://email.faircode.eu/

[–] Dutchie 1 points 2 months ago

Fairemail can still not compete with K-9, besides that the premium version cost €7,49 while K-9 is still free