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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 day ago (2 children)

A survey from the 90s is probably moot nowadays.
Although, I'm sure if you approach this like you're owed sex because you did housework, that ain't gonna end well.

[–] Linus_Torvalds 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago
[–] JayleneSlide 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've seen this from different angles of results. I like my place to be neat, clean, and dialed. I had a partner of eight years, and we had a mutually agreed division of house chores. She complained that her chores were sapping her libido, that my standards were too high. "I hear you honey. Would it help if I did everything, leaving you to focus on your graduate degree?" She confirmed that would be helpful all around. Yeah, except things got even worse.

And reacting to "I'm just not horny after [doing my share of maintaining our home life]" has, in my experience, been a trap. In retrospect, that late stage behavior has always been my wife/partner trying to bleed the relationship just a little more before throwing away the husk, all while weaseling out of any reciprocal effort. I also now understand that I was self-selecting whatever that personality archetype is.

Now, with my current partner, she loves being of service. When she had cancer, me trying to take over everything domestic made her feel worse. We negotiated that she could retain her share of chores, but I could veto for the day if I thought she was overextending herself. For the entirety of our relationship, the amount of chores I do has nothing to do with how much sex we have. I cook dinner? We have sex. She cooks dinner? Sex. Someone else cooks dinner? Believe it or not, sex.

I credit a lot of our success to strong communication and clear boundaries. The chores:sex ratio seems to go completely out the window in a healthy, communicative relationship. Again, in my experience.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

I like my place to be neat, clean, and dialed.

It goes to eleven

[–] latenightnoir 6 points 1 day ago

Anecdotally untrue, I clean my house regularly and masturbate daily.

[–] Noite_Etion 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Do you do house work because you want to, or do you do it to earn favours from your partner?

Relationships aren't business deals. You don't pay for sex with choirs and brownie points.

[–] JayleneSlide 1 points 1 day ago

Relationships aren't business deals. You don't pay for sex with choirs and brownie points.

All relationships are transactional. There may not always be an explicit ledger with columns for AP/AR. Interpersonal relationships that repeatedly fail to provide the expected return on investment result in dysfunction and toxicity. We always pay for sex and companionship; the currency just probably isn't money.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (2 children)

Nobody does house work because they want to.

Edit: those of you who disagree and do want to do housework... would you come do mine?

[–] Noite_Etion 5 points 1 day ago

Bad wording, if your motivation for doing something is just to get favours from your partner, you aren't doing it for the right reason

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

There's always someone. For everything.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

In my experience it's a matter of more flirting -> more sex

House work and other things don't really seem to matter much

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

I think what's really going on is "certain people are afraid to openly admit they don't want their partner physically, and those individuals are likely to come up with an excuse, such as housework."

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

And who has better sex? And is more happy in general? I mean the egalitarian couples could also spend their time differently and thus have less sex? Maybe they spend their nights in the bar, in the cinema, playing Super Smash Bros. on the Switch or going to the amusement park... And boarding the beef bus every night is not that important to them?

I'm not super impressed by just looking at the quantity. It's not what I'd have expected... But I think more research is needed.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting 3 points 1 day ago

Skill issue + third variable

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Couples in which men participate more in housework typically done by women report having sex less frequently. Similarly, couples in which men participate more in traditionally masculine tasks—such as yard work, paying bills, and auto maintenance—report higher sexual frequency.

Hmm. As a lady, I can see that. Sharing housework probably makes everybody too samey samey, boring, therefore less attractive. Highlighting differences probably works like opposites attract. Like ooh, you're so good at doing this thing that I can't. So sexy! Something something lizard brain?