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Glock pistols popular among US criminals because they're easily modified, report says.
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I don't own one. Can someone objectively confirm a few things about Glocks? Is the following true?:
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They don't really have a "safety". They have several mechanisms that prevent accidental fire when a finger isn't on the trigger, but if you have a round in the chamber and pull the trigger, it's going to fire (which sounds obvious, but I mean it doesn't have a safety switch like a bb gun usually does)
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You have to pull back the slide to chamber a round and fire. And once it's chambered, the trigger just needs a light squeeze to fire (as opposed to a full motion squeeze - in other words, the trigger is partially pulled back once racked and easier to fire)
If the above is true, these two things in combination seem like an irrisponsible design to me. You are asking for accidental fires like the one that happens recently where a guy pointed a gun at some kids in his driveway and claims "the gun went off". You should either have a real safety, or it should be harder to squeeze the trigger accidentally.
- Yes for most glocks, although there are some glock models that do feature a manual safety.
- Glocks have a half cocked striker once you rack the slide, and this gives a factory glock a trigger pull weight that is directly in between a cocked single-action trigger and an uncocked double-action trigger.
Glock's trigger safety is more secure than no safety although it is not as secure as a thumb safety, and the half cocked striker is easier to pull than a double-action trigger but is harder to pull than a single-action trigger.
Presumably this compromise was intentional and is one of the reasons why Glocks have become popular through their balance of reliability and ease of use - nowadays most striker fired pistols follow the same design principle.
From what others are saying, the trigger pull is always the same. I'm not familiar with the intricacies of Glocks specifically, but this seems to match with my experience as well.
Yes, since there's no way to fully cock the striker, you always get the ~6lb half cocked trigger pull weight every time.
The other commenter is saying the same thing, just in perhaps a less clear way. I think they are saying the Glock's trigger weight is between what you would expect of a heavy double action and a light single action. The Glock is a consistent weight every time. The design is often referred to as "safe action striker" or often informally just as "striker" fired. The design lacks a large and heavy hammer that needs to be actuated. Many designs after Glocks were introduced have copied this idea, making it a common alternative design to hammer fired.
- Glocks have a half cocked striker once you rack the slide, and this gives a factory glock a trigger pull weight that is directly in between a cocked single-action trigger and an uncocked double-action trigger.
I can see your interpretation of this passage, now that I re-read it. My interpretation of the passage was that, upon racking the slide, you'd have a trigger pull weight between the two. Glad we could clarify hahah.
My interpretation of the passage was that, upon racking the slide, you’d have a trigger pull weight between the two.
Your interpretation is simultaneously correct. If you insert a magazine on a closed Glock and pull the trigger nothing will happen. You need to rack it once to get the first round into the chamber. When you fire that racked round, you get the intermediate trigger pull- but also any other round you fire has the exact same pull.
I think the way it was explained above is bringing in other types of triggers as a comparison (DA/SA triggers), and if you don't know anything about them, you just end up more lost trying to read it out.
Glocks have a trigger safety, which is a small switch that has to be depressed on the face of the trigger to fire. The second paragraph is bologna.
Also a drop safety to prevent the gun from going off if you drop it.
That said it doesn’t have a safety that most people would think is meant by the word, which is a switch that prevents the trigger from being pulled (that is not built into the trigger itself)
And yes, that second paragraph is BS.
To me their trigger safety is a joke. It's a bit of metal that sticks out of the trigger a couple mm than gets pulled when you pull the trigger. It does prevent accidental discharges from being dropped but if you've got a Glock racked and ready it doesn't take much force on the trigger at all to fire.
That's why I got my wife a Ruger. It has a proper safety.
Laughs in Shadow with no factory safety.
But... That is the safety. A safety is intended to prevent ADs/NDs. And that's what it's doing here. If you have your finger on the trigger, then yes, it's going to do off, and maybe you shouldn't have your finger on the trigger unless you're pointing the gun at something you intend to shoot?
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Those glocks ain't stock