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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

That funny because when I put my non-USA definition of is white and not-white or african, this image as absolutely no meaning.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

So were native american, arab, romani people fine with those white actors in those roles?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This is an important point that should always be asked in this discourse. I mean the critique of casting is certainly valid and in this case the actual meme itself is more about pointing towards the actual racists, but still, being upset for a minority without listening to the actual minority isn't really a good look either.

The reasoning behind the Tilda Swinton one has already been mentioned here, but for example in the Johnny Depp one they apparently even had a Comanche Nation adviser to make sure the representation was done well. That doesn't necessarily make it okay, but why isn't that ever even mentioned in this discourse? I would argue it's still different to do stuff out of ignorance or malice, than just kinda fumble and make bad choices while trying to put in some effort.

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[–] chrischryse 14 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I complain about all of it. Yeah I'm sure it "doesn't affect the story" for most things, but I feel either get someone who is the correct race or make a new character.

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[–] feedum_sneedson 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Some of these might have been to avoid blatant racial stereotypes, particularly with Tilda Swinton and Liam Neeson. Johnny Depp, not so much.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (3 children)

if white is being used this generically then romani should be listed as white and arab should be middle eastern and tibetan asian if not lumping both as asian.

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[–] Demdaru 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I honestly don't care at this point. New Ariel sucks not because they switched her to black, but because it just sucks as a whole. The only thing that's actually kinda pissing me off is...

...could we stop swapping gingers with blacks? Please? Pretty please? Both are minority, ffs. But one is even kinda rarer than the other. Go on, switch the blondie, but leave the ginger as ginger ;-;

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[–] partial_accumen 11 points 2 months ago (8 children)

What really confuses me about the outrage over casting a black actor to play the little mermaid is that a mermaid is a fictional creature. Why are people so upset that a fictional creature doesn't fit what their particular preference is?

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Valid point. Although I bet there would have been some outcry if they had cast anyone without red hair TBH. Some people are just obsessed with red hair.

But there would definitely have been less outrage if they casted a blond white lady instead of a black lady. Still relevant point.

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[–] Nuke_the_whales 10 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Even after the white washing debate we got the biggest white wash ever. The Indian ruler of Asia Khan noonien Singh, played by the whitest man in existence. Benedict Cumberbatch.

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[–] FlyingSquid 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (23 children)

Don't forget Snow White who looks like a white person but is mixed-race white and Latina, so she isn't white enough to play Snow White.

And also don't forget the very light-skinned black woman who couldn't play Cleopatra because Cleopatra wasn't black. (How do we know? We don't? Cool. Cool cool cool.)

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The problem is that it's commercial driven. They want the big stars who just happen to be white. But then want to sell inclusivity for profit that lead to questionable creative decisions.

The rage is misdirected but not wrong. Representation is important but is being exploited by soulless corporate robots.

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