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Harris holds 67-point lead over Trump among LGBTQ voters: Poll (thehill.com)
submitted 22 hours ago by return2ozma to c/politics
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[–] 58008 23 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Imagine being any of those initials and thinking Trump is your guy. Not just Trump, but Vance, MTG, Mike Johnson, and the rest of those creepy juiceless cunts, at least 80% of whom are self-hating and in the closet while simultaneously gutting hard-won protections for LGBTQ+ people and convincing their voters you're all paedophiles and groomers. Will there be much room for being non-straight in a post-Project 2025 America?

May the leopards take their sweet time with you cretinous sellouts. Your preferred conservative tax policy isn't gonna deflect the bigots' bullets when Christofascists are in power, and your votes for these evil bastards essentially represent the bullets you're buying and earmarking for your fellow non-straights. Hence, excruciating leopard deaths all around 🖕

[–] [email protected] 5 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

i could understand it when biden was running; that guy was responsible for whipping up so much anti-gay hate that people back in the day thought that he was too rabidly conservative to be president when he tried running for president in the past; but now the overton window has shifted so far to the right the people call him progressive and the gays he's fucked over will never vote for him; it's only the young or the gays lucky enough to never experience his anti-gay fervor that wanted to vote for him.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago

Everything is a bell curve.

[–] [email protected] 71 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (3 children)

That boggles the mind; 1/3 of LGBTQ voters are OK with Trump getting elected?

[–] return2ozma 41 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

The rich gays only care about themselves. It's a class war.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 hours ago

Not just the rich gays. Gays that think they're gonna be rich in the future.

Not really a gay thing specifically. Lots of temporarily embarrassed millionaires out there...

[–] ChonkyOwlbear 23 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

I feel like this concept should be named after Peter Thiel.

[–] Theprogressivist 8 points 21 hours ago

Thielist

[–] [email protected] 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

The Theory of Thiel

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

The Thieoly of Everything (that personally affects him).

[–] [email protected] 14 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

The crazy part is that that 1/3 refuses to admit that the Nationalist Christians will not hesitate for a fucking second to put them up against the wall if they manage to gain and cement their hold on power in the US.

[–] ABCDE 5 points 19 hours ago

It's not a third. She has a 67% lead, not 67% of people.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 20 hours ago

1/3 of them have been pushed up against the wall their whole lives, so it’s not really a threat anymore.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

It's not quite that bad (remember, "lead" means the difference between voting intention for each candidate, not the total voting intention for one candidate). Of those intending to vote, 8 percent intend to vote for Trump (still way too damn high; fucking turkeys voting for Christmas), 77 percent are voting for Harris and the rest are voting third party. That third party vote is also too high, but it's down to a combination of Harris being smeared (unjustly) as anti trans rights, and people who just refuse to vote for a party that supports genocide, no matter how bad the alternative is.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I was very intentional in my wording.

[–] neclimdul 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I'm confused. Did I miss understand your wording?

100 - 77 = 23; 23% < 33%

77 - 10 = 67 point lead

Admittedly the way we talk about a "point lead" is confusing and it's always useful to look at what the real numbers are and what they actually mean.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Yes; I wasn’t talking about how many plan to vote for Harris or Trump, but about the fact that in the current election format, not voting for Harris makes Trump more likely to win, as all other votes are protest votes that won’t actually elect a candidate.

Once FPTP is eliminated and states use a ranked voting system, your argument comes into play. But surely people in the LGBTQ community understand that not voting for Harris in this election means not caring that Trump gets elected?

[–] Sconrad122 1 points 1 hour ago

Sure, but 23% of LGBTQ voters aren't voting for Harris, which is significantly less than a third (33%). Still higher than it should be, granted, but I am pretty sure that is what the original reply comment was pointing out.

[–] halcyoncmdr 7 points 22 hours ago

The Log Cabin Republicans aren't known for being self-reflective.

[–] MediaBiasFactChecker -2 points 22 hours ago

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