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[–] [email protected] 35 points 5 days ago (1 children)

it's tempting to repost this in linuxmemes

[–] negativenull 11 points 5 days ago
[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] negativenull 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

If birds are dinos, then dinos are reptiles, and therefore birds are reptiles

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)

If birds are dinos, then dinos are reptiles

?

[–] negativenull 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

Birds are a clade of dinosaurs ( a child group). In exactly the same way, dinosaurs are a clade of reptiles. So by extension, birds are a clade of reptiles.

You and I are also walking fish.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I think they were pointing out the structural issue with your statement. They info you are attempting to convey is correct. Your ability to do so is questionable.

[–] negativenull 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

If birds are dinos, then dinos are reptiles

I'm not sure what is structurally wrong with that statement. Birds are dinosaurs (most people know this by now). Using the exact same logic, dinosaurs are reptiles as well.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

a= "birds are dinos"

b= "dinos are reptiles"

c= "birds are reptiles"

Structure: If a then b, therefore c

a does not imply b without an additional statement (which we can assume from the rest would be "because birds are reptiles")

You've basically just said birds are reptiles because birds are reptiles

[–] negativenull 3 points 5 days ago

I see. Thank you you for that explanation. I was letting inference do some heavy lifting. (and yes, I'm not a great communicator)

[–] AEsheron 4 points 5 days ago

But fish don't exist.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

There's no such thing as a fish.

[–] Dasus 1 points 3 days ago
[–] tacosplease 2 points 5 days ago

We're worms too!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago (4 children)

You can't evolve out of a clade ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

Not with that attitude.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

Its ok, he switched to linux.

[–] negativenull 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Clint's Reptiles told me that. I love this YouTube channel and his energy and love for all animals.

Not affiliated, just a fan 😅

[–] negativenull 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'll have to check that channel out

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

Come back afterwards and tell me what you think

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Then how did different clades evolve?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

By getting in early, and having a lot of child branches on the tree of life

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

The ancestors of birds were reptiles. No matter how different they are from their ancestors, they're still reptiles. They're birds as well, but being different doesn't mean they left the clade.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

And here I was looking for Saddam

[–] negativenull 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Saddam was in its belly. I've highlighted here:

[–] finitebanjo 6 points 5 days ago

And here I thought the evolutionary split between feathers and armor plates was what separated modern birds and reptiles.

[–] felixwhynot 4 points 5 days ago

Not alligators?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

And it's not the original penguin ™️