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[–] axemurber 80 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Old trick, don't fall for it. Go out and vote, never assume victory on your side or trust people from the other side telling you you won.

They want people to not vote because it is: "in the bag"

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago (3 children)

If they say Trump's winning, it's a trick to make Democrats think it's lost and stay home. If they say Trump's losing, it's a trick to make Democrats think they've won and stay home.

Maybe sometimes people just want to share opinions about what's going on. We should vote regardless, but not everything is a trick.

[–] axemurber 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Honestly you might be right, but at this point I am not sure if what I feel is news induced paranoia or realistic worry. Regardless, go vote indeed.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

The data shows this race is 50-50. Don't listen to opinions or even single poll results.

https://www.natesilver.net/p/nate-silver-2024-president-election-polls-model

We need to do more than just vote, we need to volunteer, donate, and encourage friends and family to go vote for Harris

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

We're talking about American politics, every avenue of which is spun by media looking for eyeballs, capitalists looking for dollars, leaders looking for allies, and egoists looking for power. Sure there are individuals that just want to share their opinion, but there is also no shortage of people who are trying to trick some portion of the electorate.

[–] fluxion 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

If we were talking Fox News then that heuristic is probably pretty close to reality

[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It ain't over until the election is over. Let's not get complacent

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes! Vote! Vote early! Vote Often (j/k)!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Actually Vote Often is correct. Every election your City, County, State & Federal have, you Vote. That way you never get removed from the voter rolls legally.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Man it would be great if that was more on the radar, to vote at all these other levels

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This race is exactly tied 50-50

https://www.natesilver.net/p/nate-silver-2024-president-election-polls-model

You need to do everything you can to help Harris win! Donate and volunteer! Go do a web search how to do it right now! I mean RIGHT now! Go!

[–] Atrichum 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Nate Silver is a hack, but agree with everything else you said.

[–] TwentySeven 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Why do you say that? The consensus seems to be that he is one of the best at what he does.

[–] Atrichum 0 points 2 months ago

One reason is that he has demonstrated over the past 8 years that he's not really better at forecasting than others. But the main reason I say that is he's shown his ass on social media time and time again. I don't have specifics so can't really defend my accusation.

[–] grue 28 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The polls are literally irrelevant -- and I don't mean just in the usual way that they can have bias or vary compared to what the actual vote ends up being.

What I mean is that the polls are irrelevant because Trump isn't even trying to win votes in the first place, but instead has every intention of massively cheating and stealing the presidency.

So yeah: first of all, it's imperative to disregard the polls and vote anyway because we can't just squeak by, but instead need massive landslide victories in states like GA and AZ to overwhelm all the fraud (throwing out valid votes and refusing to certify) the MAGA election officials will be perpetrating. And then second, we have to go beyond just voting and be prepared to hold massive protests to make it clear to both election officials and judges handling Trump's inevitable flood of election-denier lawsuits that professional misconduct will not be tolerated.

[–] Etterra 26 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Trust nothing that comes from a poll. Go vote. It ain't over till it's over.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

Polls can be a good indicator, since not everyone will vote. But yes, go vote. If you vote for Harris, get out there on Tuesday, 5 November and show your support! If you vote for Trump, get out there on Wednesday, 6 November and show your support! (Don't get your days mixed up! The liberal media doesn't want you to remember that your Trump vote only counts if it's on Wednesday!)

[–] Snapz 13 points 2 months ago

Nothing over until January 7th.

Register to vote. Vote. Use your time and energy to get others to do the same. Hold the line until the election is certified.

[–] TipRing 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Nobody should believe Frank Luntz about anything.

[–] Letsdothis 3 points 2 months ago

Especially now.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Fake News!

-Republicans who do their Own Research!

[–] xenomor 1 points 2 months ago

“Ethically and follicly challenged” Frank Luntz