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Israel Just Killed Another American in the West Bank. Will the U.S. Ever Respond? (theintercept.com)

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Will the U.S. Ever Respond?

I don't know, why don't we try asking Rachel Corrie.

Oh wait, she's been dead for over twenty years and the US still hasn't made a stink about her being killed by Israeli occupiers who were literally in the process of stealing Palestinian land.

Further, as others have pointed out, Aysenur Ezgi Eygi isn't even as lucky as Rachel Corrie to have a white sounding name that US citizens might give a shit about. Meaning it's even more likely that Eygi's story will get brushed under the rug and forgotten.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

Or the u.s.s liberty in 60s

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago

Apparently US doesn't have problems even if Israel attacks their own warships.. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident Why would a bunch of individuals matter...

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The obvious answer to the headline is no.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The answer to any headline that's a question is no

[–] mlg 8 points 2 months ago

I actually found an article that breaks the rule:

https://lemmy.world/post/18139913

[–] ME5SENGER_24 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The obvious answer is yes, the US will continue to send more and more weapons and bombs to Israel forever. I wish it would end. But it won’t.

So the response to this will be MORE KILLING MACHINES

[–] Viking_Hippie 3 points 2 months ago

Continuing like before is by definition a LACK of response, though.

Might as well say that you're responding to the decline of Polish snail husbandry by still not knowing much about Polish snail husbandry.

[–] jordanlund 15 points 2 months ago

Why start now?

https://www.npr.org/2024/03/30/1241231447/rachel-corrie-gaza-palestinians-aid-israel-hamas-war

Israel killed her 21 years ago.

All part of Israeli policy of bulldozing the homes of people who dare resist them.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_demolition_of_Palestinian_property

[–] SulaymanF 13 points 2 months ago

Didn’t Biden promise to retaliate for any American killed overseas? Except if Israel does it.

[–] xenoclast 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

People's lives are nothing compared to the profits made in wars. Israel is a a huge military partner, both provider and buyer.

So, no. They're never going to respond in any real way.

I think the US should consider changing the slogan on their dollar to "Profits over People"

But write it on latin so it sounds cool.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

“Frūctūs super populō” (edit: or “hūmānīs” given that this is “people” (plural) instead of “the people” (singular))

(no idea if this correct, I just used Wiktionary and have very little knowledge of Latin)

[–] Viking_Hippie 12 points 2 months ago

They already "responded" in exactly the way you'd expect:

The White House said it was “deeply disturbed” by the killing of a U.S. citizen and called on Israel to investigate what happened.

The leadership of both parties treat the fascist apartheid regime exactly like they treat American fascists in uniform (cops, in case there was any doubt) murdering people.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

They just might authorize another 10 billion for arms to show concern.

[–] leadore 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I dunno, considering we didn't do anything to Saudi Arabia after they killed 3000 of us in our own country I'll guess not. (edit: fix word order)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

We WILL! We're going to send them 1 LESS AMMO FOR THEIR GUNS! Let THAT be a Lesson Israel!

[–] AtomicHotSauce 4 points 2 months ago

No, not until people stop clinging to religion as a weapon and a shield.

[+] chemical_cutthroat -10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Here is the question that I'll pose for debate:

Is a US citizen protected by the US armed forces if they chose to enter an active warzone as a non-combatant without the consent of the US government?

Please explain your answer.

[–] mlg 18 points 2 months ago

West Bank isn't an active war zone

The USA allows you to visit anywhere you want, and they maintain a travel advisory list for every country. Both Israel and the West Bank are listed as "High Security Risk", not "Do Not Travel". You can still visit "Do Not Travel" places at mostly your own risk.

The reason given for the advisory is "terrorism and civil unrest". Nowhere in their explanation does it say you will be actively shot at by the acting "defense" force or police.

Hell considering the circumstances, it's probably better to avoid run ins with the IDF, which is the opposite of what the advisory says to do lol.

[–] PugJesus 13 points 2 months ago

Is a US citizen protected by the US armed forces if they chose to enter an active warzone as a non-combatant without the consent of the US government?

Doesn't fucking matter. The US doesn't look at national government forces killing American civilians neutrally in any circumstance - except, it seems, in the case of Israel. This isn't some paramilitary or rebel group that killed an American civilian. This is literally the security forces of an 'ally'.