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[–] blue_berry 102 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Even if it doesnt have much impact on activitypub-fedi, I think this is good news for the fediverse in general. X is loosing more and more relevancy and microblogging is more and more happening on federating services.

[–] Lost_My_Mind 82 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I'm having trouble figuring out how bluesky is part of the fediverse at all.

From my understanding it doesn't federate with anything.

It's like saying a hamburger is really just a cheeseburger......you just need to add cheese.

[–] mesamunefire 27 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It has an adapter that integrated with the current protocol.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Oh great. That bridge even federates with the bitcoin bros' network (nostr)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Which one is that. I guess I've been left out of the loop.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Maybe they mean Nostr? If so, describing it as "the bitcoin bros' network" is a bit misleading, since the "crypto" portion of Nostr is short for "cryptography", not "cryptocurrency".

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

Ah, so the kind of crypto bro, that instead of a fistbump, does a diffie-hellman key exchange instead?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Oh yeah, no. I literally mean the majority of the community there. All I see there is blockchain and bitcoin shit.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago (9 children)

In theory, bluesky can federate with other apps but it is currently the only one using their protocol, bluesky servers can federate with each other and when a new project using atprotocol appears it will probably be able to federate with that

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[–] [email protected] 89 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Techcrunch has basically been an ad network for companies who want to promote themselves. Other open source projects probably don't have a budget to pay for an a̶r̶t̶i̶c̶l̶e̶ ad spot.

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[–] Rayspekt 73 points 2 months ago (15 children)

I'm way too federated for this.

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[–] mesamunefire 57 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Mastodon.social just went over the 2 million user mark. The switch to fediverse and fediverse adjacent is going pretty quick.

[–] SquiffSquiff 28 points 2 months ago (10 children)

I've been on Mastodon for over a year and the content simply isn't there. Several of the people that I follow on Twitter have tried moving or duplicating to Mastodon. They've had a fraction of the visibility and engagement from commenters that they would get on Twitter. Invariably after a few months they have essentially given up on it as a primary medium. For me the discoverability is essentially non-existent, which I don't think is helped by the idea of it being based around instance-local communities, which have no meaning when you're looking at something like Twitter.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago (2 children)

mastodon had their chance during the first exodus but they refused to listen to what twitter users wanted and shot down things like lists, quote tweets, and privacy controls.

mastodon is very gatekeeper-y

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (27 children)

Maybe they should stop caring about visibility and engagement and concentrate on participating in, building and y'know enjoying a community?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago

That can be difficult if your livelihood depends on it. Artists for example.

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[–] QuarterSwede 13 points 2 months ago (3 children)

My experience has been better. User engagement is much higher per follower and the discussions don’t devolve. They’re much more useful and/or interesting. KPIs don’t measure everything.

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[–] mesamunefire 10 points 2 months ago

Guess it's not for you then. I'm having a blast. A lot of my friends are now in it and the last year or so have been great.

And more and more people seem to be moving.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (11 children)

„The content“ is there. Its just the addiction inducing, never ending dopamine that doesnt flow as freely which is great.

If you follow the topics that are most prevalent on the fedi (eg freedom, activism, technology, diversity) you will not run out unless you scroll for many hours a day, which is suggests you find yourself a hobby.

Also, the self fulfilling prophecy of „the fediverse is too small, I go to big platform“ will keep the fediverse small.

Be the change you want to see.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Blue sky leads to the same trap Twitter was. A place that will be purchased by some asshole that shits on everyone for money.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

You'll be shocked to know that bluesky is open source then and PDS is well on its way to allowing you to host your own instance.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm shocked to learn that Reddit is opensource back then.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 months ago (1 children)

In its developer’s blog, Bluesky stressed that “guardrails” are still in place. Most significantly, users can only self-host their own accounts for now, and in the next phase, self-hosted servers will initially be limited to 10 accounts each, with rate limits on usage.

https://www.theverge.com/2024/2/22/24080334/bluesky-self-hosting-servers-data-federated

What is the status now?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

It doesn't say there's any limit on their github

[–] Lemminary 37 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

Jack Dorsey left the board, so I'm ok with that. Good for them!

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago (14 children)

i dont like bluesky bcs its missing alot of features compared to mastodon and twitter also when you host bluesky the server you hosted you cant view bsky.social so thats why i use mastodon alongside

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Good. Competition is good. If they suceed or fail just means we learn and build a better product.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (14 children)

It would be interesting to know more about the additional users. The banning of Shitter in Brazil is very much tied to internal politics and AFAIK it might be the Brazilian equivalent to MAGA that is currently mass-migrating to Bluesky.

If so, this might be a bad thing for them, as they probably don't want to get perceived as the Brazilian truth.social.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

it might be the Brazilian equivalent to MAGA that is currently mass-migrating to Bluesky.

actually, the opposite. The MAGA types are doing whatever they can to continue sucking on Elon's balls. It's journos and normies who are moving to Bluesky.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

People will never learn, will they? You give them AP and they go for the Jack Dorsey clone. Amazing

Anti Commercial-AI license

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Jack Dorsey is not involved in Bluesky anymore.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

If I have mastodon, how and when can I follow Blue sky users? I read something about an adapter server or something, but I don't know what that means in a practical sense.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

There is Bridgy Fed, which bridges accounts over to the other side if they follow the respective Bridgy Fed account on their platform. This is opt-ín though, so you can't just follow anyone, they need to have followed @ap.brid.gy on Bluesky. To have your interactions bridged you need to follow @[email protected].

If the account you want to follow is not bridged and you are okay with just reading their posts, you can also use a service like RSS Parrot as every Bluesky account also serves as an RSS feed.

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