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[–] [email protected] 59 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Donates or "donates"? As "all yours" or as in "it's ours but you do the work"?

[–] anamethatisnt 77 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

As in
“We’ve finished taking all we need from the Mono project and implemented it into our ~~proprietary~~ .NET implementation for Linux, Android and iOS. Instead of getting flack for killing off Mono (which is open source and would’ve been forked anyways) we graciously give this old husk to the Wine project. We recommend that active Mono users and maintainers of Mono-based app frameworks migrate to .NET. kthnxbye!”

Good thing that it went to Wine I guess, as they do lots of work to get old Windows programs up and running in Linux and that often involves Mono.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 months ago (1 children)

.Net is open source bruh, it's not proprietary

[–] anamethatisnt 31 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I stand corrected, .NET Core is open source and uses the MIT License.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

It is not “.NET Core” anymore though. Since version 5, it has just been “.NET”. The current version is 8 with previews of 9 available.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 months ago

Oh what's that? Some rational thought in my ramblings? Nah we can't have that in this sublemmy champ

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago

Good thing that it went to Wine I guess, as they do lots of work to get old Windows programs up and running in Linux and that often involves Mono.

I see this as the main purpose of this transfer of ownership. When it comes to developing new software, MS has their modern tech stack for creating cross-compatible code, and the recommendation is to use that. But that is not helpful when trying to get old legacy software running on a modern system. So MS is giving this "outdated" technology to the WINE team. A team whose primary goal is getting incompatible software to run in the "wrong" environment. This should allow WINE to continue to properly handle older Mono software for the foreseeable future.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

You are completely correct. The good news is that the “official” .NET is Open Source now and far better than the “Mono Project” ever was.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 months ago

And that’s how you know it’s worthless

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago

Technical debt is transferred to Wine team.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago

Okay, a suspicious thanks to you, Microsoft...

...So when can we get this treatment for WMR so all our VR headsets don't become useless bricks kthaaaanks!

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago

"""donates"""

[–] NateNate60 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What are the implications of this?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Not much. There used to be this fear of Microsoft copyrighting Mono for reimplementing their stuff on Linux. For that reason, Mono was avoided by linux app developers. But since MS had acquired the company that made and developed Mono and they have also open-sourced .NET and everything, this does not mean much.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 months ago

For that reason, Mono was avoided by linux app developers. But since MS had acquired the company that made and developed Mono

"You don't like it? Fine then, we buy it and force it on you!"

Classic Microshit.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Microsoft donated mono to the wine project

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yea I know. But I still can't believe it.

Microsoft finally sees they can't code.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

No.

Microsoft maintains what is essentially the “real” version of Mono within their official .NET project. It is up to version 8.

The version of Mono represents by “The Mono Project” still targets .NET Framework ( stuck on version 4.x for years now ). Microsoft does not care about the real version, nevermind the Open Source replica.

What Microsoft is “donating” is pure legacy. It is a good fit for Wine though.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Well that was unexpected

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

This is a different community all together

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's not a repost if it's in a different community

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What's the difference? Thanks for sharing the repost. It let's us see the comments in both communities

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What’s the difference?

Technicalities... it has been cross-posted, i hadn't noticed it.