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Firefox outperforms Chrome in speed for the first time according to a Speedometer assessment::undefined

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[–] mysoulishome 49 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I’ve loved Chrome (on windows) for many years but at this point when you open task manager it’s practically using up more resources than the operating system. Because it is. It’s essentially like running a second operating system…

[–] 3laws 41 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Great idea, Google should do that and call it like... Chrome O-- ChromOS, yeah that's it.

[–] mysoulishome 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Exactly, should a web browser need to be a complete operating system, or can it just show you the damn internet? Feeling like a cranky old man here

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

A browser—any browser—does have to do most of what an operating system does. Every web page is an app and many of them are as complicated as desktop or mobile apps. Hell, a lot of them are full desktop apps—a lot of "native" desktop apps are just web apps running in a special browser window that lacks the usual browser UI.

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[–] whatsarefoogee 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

There is this misconception of "using a lot of ram = bad", but memory is not like cpu or gpu cycles.

Unused memory is wasted memory. Chrome will use available memory to improve responsiveness. Primarily the memory use comes from keeping all open tabs in memory, so they are in the same state as you left them.

When the system runs low on ram, chrome will start discarding old tabs and giving back memory to other processes. Firefox does the same thing.

Also windows task manager is very inconsistent when it comes to memory usage. Right now it's telling me chromium is using 1.4gb for 47 tabs. And memory usage is a lot more complicated anyway.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Counter-point: Chrome brought multiple computers/laptops to a standstill, but Firefox doesn't. I used Chrome for years and just put up with it... But the lagging/slowness literally stopped when I switched. So while I'm sure you're right in theory, something about Google's implementation sucked on all the computers I used it on...

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago

Switched to Firefox years ago and never looked back.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Oh look, it's the daily "Firefox outperforms Chrome" post...

EDIT: yesterday's post: https://lemmy.world/post/1779611

[–] pavlov 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

From the same user too... This account just spams articles to this community and never comments. Looks like an old reddit-style karma farmer

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s literally a bot account.

Pretty sure it’s to feed content into the sub.

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[–] optissima 5 points 1 year ago

It's an historic day! Also within 24h Google starts floating DRM websites

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago

More reasons to keep using Firefox just keep on coming up like excellent extensions, in-browser PDF editor, and now more speed. I switched to Firefox 2 years ago with uBO and I don't think I'd ever switch back to Chrome.

[–] reddig33 25 points 1 year ago

Not surprising, considering how bloated Chrome is.

[–] Speculater 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Switched to Firefox and Bitwarden due to Lemmy feedback. Haven't looked back.

[–] phoneymouse 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] njm1314 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is no way its the first time. Firefox has been faster for years.

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[–] BonesOfTheMoon 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I always found Chrome really laggy and swapped it for Firefox because it seemed lighter and faster.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Same, whenever I tried and use Chrome with another application running, it always slowed down my computer an insane amount. Firefox doesn't do that, I can actually use multiple programs on my machine with Firefox open.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

This is huge. I'm actually starting to get optimistic about the future of the internet.

[–] Suavevillain 14 points 1 year ago

I love firefox. I love the freedom you have with the browser. I got vertical tabs and a good theme I'm happy.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (6 children)

It's good to see this result replicated. The only thing I wish Firefox had natively was tab groups, they're a really useful feature for various organizing things. Otherwise, they're clearly one of not the best browser on the market.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It’s good to see this result replicated. The only thing I wish Firefox had natively was tab groups, they’re a really useful feature for various organizing things. Otherwise, they’re clearly one of not the best browser on the market.

Just use "Simple Tab Groups" extension. It's pretty good. And on top of that you can use other extensions, so that for example all tabs within a group automatically get added to a container (isolating them from other tabs). Really useful when shopping for stuff so advertisers can't track you around different shopping sites (or at least it makes it more difficult)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

funny thing actually: Firefox had tab-groups built in. They then decided to remove it as an builtin feature and offer it as an extension instead, but not long after, when they switched the extension system, the extension was no longer supported

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've heard that. I wonder why they removed native functionality for tab groups, was there some problem with them?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Maybe bad code quality? I don't remember. It always worked fine for me.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As someone that recently moved from Chrome to Firefox, I can definitely confirm this.

[–] phillycodehound 8 points 1 year ago

I did to. Chrome is so bloated.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I switched to Firefox from Mozilla Suite and never looked back.

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[–] Cosmonaut_Collin 6 points 1 year ago

On low end PCs, Firefox always outspend chrome, at least for me. I remember trying to play happy wheels on my think pad laptop back in the day and I would get low fps on chrome but never on Firefox. That experience is what made me switch to the superior browser.

[–] tun 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Had been using Firefox before I had to move away due to persistent crashing of Firefox and Surfshark VPN extension not working.

I have been using Edge and I will now try using Firefox again.

Do we have these feature (or extensions) I have been using in Edge?

  • vertical tab
  • tab group
[–] jukibom 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I use tree style tabs and the collapsible hierarchical nature of them act like defacto groups, though there may be another extension specifically for grouping that I've not heard of

[–] svahnen 4 points 1 year ago

Wow that's awesome looking, thx for the link!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

these features first appeared in Firefox... I've been using tab groups and tree-style tabs(/vertical tabs) for longer than Edge exists.

[–] tun 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Extensions or built-in?

I didn't notice them.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Extensions. Although, tab groups used to be built in.

[–] tun 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Thanks.

I am gonna try Tree style tab and Simple Tab Group with its extensions.

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[–] phillycodehound 3 points 1 year ago

Not surprised. But Google Meet stalls on FF as does Streamyard. Probably a WebRTC bug

[–] fne8w2ah 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Not surprising as Chrome has been getting more bloated all along. Then again, I personally use Vivaldi as Firefox doesn't have a built-in translator tool.

[–] whatsarefoogee 13 points 1 year ago

Vivaldi is chromium based, so it's pretty much chrome with a different UI.

[–] Natal 9 points 1 year ago

Translator here. Beware of translation tools. It's fine for personal use and basic understanding but it's not up to the task for the translation of complex stuff or technical stuff. It's good at creating text that looks legit but can sometimes contain critical errors.

I once worked on a medical device and used machine translation to test it. The text was fine but some numbers were changed. This is a huge error.

[–] jukibom 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's weird that it's not built in but there is a Mozilla add-on for it to provide on-device translations https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/firefox-translations/

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