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Everything #OpenStreetMap related is welcome: software releases, showing of your work, questions about how to tag something, as long as it has to do with OpenStreetMap or OpenStreetMap-related software.

OpenStreetMap is a map of the world, created by people like you and free to use under an open license.

Join OpenStreetMap and start mapping: https://www.openstreetmap.org.

There are many communication channels about OSM, many organized around a certain country or region. Discover them on https://openstreetmap.community

https://mapcomplete.org is an easy-to-use website to view, edit and add points (such as shops, restaurants and others)

https://learnosm.org/en/ has a lot of information for beginners too.

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[–] SomeGuy69 97 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Does Google not currently have an anti trust lawsuit going on? Fine addition of them abusing their quasi monopoly position. But maybe they want to use this as argument "look people could just get it from fdroid" or something like that. IANAL

BTW does removal mean phones with enabled google protect will ask users to uninstall the app? I have this "feature" disabled.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (2 children)

play protect sucks, ye. I think I might just go for f-droid only for my next phone.

I'll lose tiktok, but whatever

[–] krashmo 25 points 4 months ago

Fuck tiktok

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There's the Aurora Store on F-Droid that lets you install apps from Google's store without giving any data/account info to Google. Works pretty well!

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[–] Asudox 79 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (6 children)

Solution: don't install it from the Google Play Store. F-Droid and Obtainium exist.

[–] gedaliyah 35 points 4 months ago (2 children)

This is a workaround for tech savvy people, but pretty far from the point here. This move is bad for the community and bad for the app. Play Store brings orders of magnitude more exposure and users

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[–] roofuskit 11 points 4 months ago

Android Auto won't work that way.

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[–] Z3k3 71 points 4 months ago (2 children)

On the bright side I had never heard of this app. So thanks I'm checking it out now

[–] gedaliyah 19 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's probably the best of the free and open source maps. I use it almost every day.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

It is also apparently a threat to Google. If Google fears it then it must be solid. (Spoiler: it is as I use it)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Basically Osmand mini. Simple and not much settings but good enough defaults.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

This means I want to install organic maps now.

Update: I like it, it got us home quicker than google yesterday. And the route was less boring

[–] [email protected] 55 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Damn, that means Google sees Organic maps as a threat. It is crazy how good it is.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Well, at least now Google won't try to update the app I installed through F-Droid.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

That's one of the reasons why we need to breaking up google. They use gapps and play store to control the android ecosystem.

[–] FutileRecipe 21 points 4 months ago (7 children)

Organic Maps is also available via https://accrescent.app/ which is developed by a GrapheneOS community member and even hosted in the GrapheneOS App Store.

Accrescent is a private and secure Android app store built with modern features in mind. It aims to provide a developer-friendly platform and pleasant user experience while enforcing modern security and privacy practices and offering robust validity guarantees for installed apps.

Accrescent comes from within the GrapheneOS community and we're collaborating together.

https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/112821386750410102

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

A grapheneos community member is just a random person

[–] FutileRecipe 10 points 4 months ago (3 children)

A grapheneos community member is just a random person

A random person that is mentioned specifically by the official GrapheneOS account, not to mention that GrapheneOS has said Accrescent is their recommended app store above F-Droid. Maybe Accrescent dev is not a GrapheneOS core dev, but still a step up, with more credibility, than just "a random person."

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Any info what the exact problem they had was? Can you search for brothels in that app or what? (I remember you can in OsmAnd)

[–] gedaliyah 20 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

There's nothing you can find in open street maps that is not also going to have an equivalent in Google maps. There's no messaging capability in the app. There aren't even photos, except if you link it with Wikipedia. I can't think of a single reason why this would get flagged, even accidentally.

[–] subtext 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well some Wikipedia articles could be construed as not appropriate for kids if you’re dead set on removing the app.

I’m thinking of things like Auschwitz or Hiroshima or the Twin Towers where content could be objectionable for children, but also that’s a terrible argument because it’s Wikipedia and it’s a fantastic educational resource.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Wikipedia has images of nude humans in articles about sexuality and genitals, so that would be a possible reason there; not applicable to OSM.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There definitely is data in OSM that isn't in Google Maps, that is what makes OSM so great! :D

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[–] sunbytes 18 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I literally downloaded this two days ago. Wtf

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago

Get Organic Maps from F-Droid. Start taking power away from Google. It's in your own hands.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Fuck pokemon go all my homies play streetcomplete

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

I recently started using it and screw you all for recommending it. My walks take like twice as long now.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

Likewise, new android user and it's far easier than OSM in my Vivaldi browser.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

As much as I love fdroid and I love to be in a community where this recommendation is made repeatedly, the announcement suggests to download from https://cdn.organicmaps.app/apk/OrganicMaps-24081605-GooglePlay.apk while they appeal. From the way they wrote the announcement, I understand Android Auto won't work with the fdroid version.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

I'm angry that Google prevents sideloaded apps from running on Android Auto. I think this is against the recent EU laws about gatekeepers.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago

That's funny I just installed it yesterday but decided to use f-droid instead. Going to be my default going forward.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It's back up now. It seems to have been a mistake to block it.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

Google's anticompetitive practices are at it again.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

So, if they make it 18+, they would be fine? (not that this is a solution)

[–] Slayerx 5 points 4 months ago

Someone still uses Google software? Poor souls...

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