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[–] [email protected] 76 points 5 months ago (3 children)
[–] MrNesser 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Ouch that's going to hurt the share price

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/CRWD/

Not enough... only down 8.9% and it even rebounded overnight...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Corporate behemoths are going to keep doing what they do best.

Their ISO-whatever certification says they gotta get that kind of software, so they do. Whether it is found to actually increase business risk does not matter in the slightest, what matters is that a box is checked for the audit.

It's like Oracle or IBM, who did not contribute anything of value to the world since about 2005 and notoriously have some of the most aggressive licensing lawyers on the planet. But there are lots of companies out there who sort a product segment from Old to New and pick the first result on account of the fact that it's "established", "reputable" and "reliable", every other consideration be damned.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Somebody's getting fired and that company is getting sued. I'm very curious how much this outage will have ended up costing the global economy.

[–] greyfox 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

This was a separate outage unrelated to CrowdStrike a few hours earlier that took down a couple of airlines as well.

A majority of the VMs in the Azure CentralUS datacenter went down due to some sort of backend storage issue.

Edit: I guess I should have read the article they do say CrowdStrike. They seem to be implying that they were one event when the cloud services outage was earlier and unrelated. I had heard about grounded flights during the first outage as well. So they likely are combining the two events here.

[–] rottingleaf 50 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Airlines relying on Windows.

Sometimes I do feel afraid.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Dude, every bit of critical infrastructure around you is running Windows XP and McAfee ePO. The shit hidden in segregated control networks would make a security researcher from 2009 cringe.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I just did a fresh install of Windows 7 this week.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Whoa! Slow down! Does the plant manager know you're on the bleeding edge?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago

Don't worry, it was 32-bit.

[–] rottingleaf 2 points 5 months ago

Where I live infrastructure is actually a bit more modern, but I have seen Windows XP, 2003, 2008 very recently too.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Can confirm. I've already heard from one of my team's members from 2005.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

Fucking ENS

[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Clearly didn't resolve it that well considering that most of a continent is out now

Edit: world, not continent now

[–] HeyJoe 6 points 5 months ago

I am thrilled right now that our company only started relying on cloud resources a few years ago and still don't use services like this... I hope this is a wake-up call to them, so we never use something like this. I know the execs finally realized the cloud is not cost effective, and I hope we keep it a mixed bag instead of going in fully. I have been in IT for 18 years now, and thankfully, I have never had to deal with a disaster like this. Another close call was outsourcing our IT service desk to a company, and they wanted us to put agents on our pc's so they could do their job easier. Luckily, our network team said absolutely not. Sure enough, that same year at Christmas time, they got hit with a crypto attack, and instead of having to deal with the agents, we just shut down the tunnel, and we're fine. A lot of their clients were not so lucky. Screw the cloud and 3rd party services... it doesn't save what you think, and you get poor services in return a lot of the time.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Time to switch to alternatives

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago (2 children)

It isn't a Microsoft issue in the first place. Doesn't mean switching to alternatives isn't a good idea, but this one isn't on them for a change.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's an argument for decentralization. An argument that won't be heeded.

[–] rottingleaf 11 points 5 months ago

Monocultures are like this, yes. The reason bananas are less tasty than they were 100 years ago.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago

Incidentally CrowdStrike has a Linux agent and my previous company was pushing us to install it to check another box on their Cyberliability insurance form. So this could just as easy happen there too.

[–] ViscloReader 4 points 5 months ago

Alternatives😏

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Security software is by and large theatre. There I said it.

Install TempleOS in your production environment I guarantee no one is writing viruses for that lol