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[–] [email protected] 72 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's too late, we can't contain it

[–] [email protected] 37 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, that ship has sailed.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Missing a comma: “Stop, use Docker.” But actually, use Podman.

Relatedly, a 2019 tweet from Solomon Hykes, the creator of Docker: https://x.com/solomonstre/status/1111004913222324225

If WASM+WASI existed in 2008, we wouldn't have needed to created Docker. That's how important it is. Webassembly on the server is the future of computing. A standardized system interface was the missing link. Let's hope WASI is up to the task!

I think WASM/WASI still has a ways to go before that’s realistic, but I’d keep an eye on them for the future.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (4 children)

As someone who has used and loved Docker since 2015, but never used Podman, can you explain the difference and why I might want to make the switch?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

From a practical standpoint I’m really not qualified recommend one over the other, but the licensing is different. Podman also seems to be more “open source-y,” but I’m going on vibes here; perhaps someone more knowledgeable can elucidate.

[–] Feathercrown 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Why would you recommend people make the effort to switch to Podman if you can't name any benefits of doing so?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

I would suggest that if someone is using neither, perhaps consider podman as open source. However, I too would need a reason to move. I mainly use synology for images, so its their container manager, rather than docker but my understanding is its docker under the hood.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

edit: sorry, I replied to the wrong comment.

[–] ikidd 5 points 4 months ago

If you want to lose most of your tooling and community support, Podman is a great way to go.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

From what I heard, podman doesn’t require root but that’s about it. On the other side, it’s a redhat thing and it’s not as popular which means less documented and less containers

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Supposed to be an easy, if not a drop in replacement afaik, it's under a permissive licence (Apache 2.0), beyond that it's authored by RedHat I can't tell you much else, it's something I've been considering moving to personally (and work, pretty much for licencing and the few of us that want to use more open tech stacks) I just haven't had a chance to work with it.

Supposedly able to pull docker images and work with docker-compose, just not swarm.

[–] meliaesc 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I honestly and truly don't want to spend time relearning another system like this, especially one without decades of documentation and support available.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Depending on how old you are, eventually that choice may no longer be up to you.

[–] meliaesc 7 points 4 months ago

My plan is to burn out soon, and work on projects for fun/side jobs. Corporate world has absolutely vacuumed my life long passion in the past 5 years.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Laughs in Proxmox + NixOS

(yes I know not for every usecase)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I dropped the proxmox part.

Nixos ftw

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

I'm waiting for the Proxmox NixOS project to take off. I like the (network) seperability.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

images were meant to be trapped in cabinet files