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[–] elbucho 81 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Huh. I wonder if he was also socially awkward when he was raping Sally Hemings (starting from when she was 14 years old, younger than his daughter Abigail, whom Hemings was sent to care for), or when he convinced her to leave the relative safety of France by telling her that he'd emancipate her children, or when he was like: "lol u thought" and kept them enslaved for the rest of his life. So socially awkward. Such a quirky guy.

[–] breadsmasher 38 points 5 months ago (2 children)

america was founded by slaving raping immigrants

[–] elbucho 37 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Socially awkward slaving, raping immigrants.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago
[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago

Thomas Paine was pretty legit. Abolitionist (and I think a believer in racial equality) and not shy about saying so.

[–] Alterforlett 26 points 5 months ago
[–] [email protected] 45 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That's what you think of as him being weird and awkward?

He enslaved his own kids.

To the point that when he was ambassador to France, they noted down that one of his servants (no slavery in France at the time) was obviously related to him and how that was really weird.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago

Ok, but let's try to be fair here... Those were the children of slaves. Yes, perhaps the slaves that Jefferson raped, but what is he going to do, not enslave them? Lol

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Until I read the comments I 100% assumed that he assaulted this girl to some level and she hit him in the head real hard like maybe with some sort of object.

I have no idea whether it was that, or whether he was just too embarrassed to get out of bed for 2 days because of being an autist or something, but the fact that he sought real medical care for it afterwards still kinda biases me towards the first interpretation.

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver 12 points 5 months ago

I believe he was famously socially awkward. He would even deliver the State of the Union by letter instead of speaking.