this post was submitted on 07 Jun 2024
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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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Our definition of ‘cops’ is broad, and includes prison guards, probation officers, shitty DAs and judges, etc — anyone who has the authority to fuck over people’s lives, with minimal or no oversight.

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INFO

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Adultification

Cops aren't supposed to be smart

Don't talk to the police.

Killings by law enforcement in Canada

Killings by law enforcement in the United Kingdom

Killings by law enforcement in the United States

Know your rights: Filming the police

Three words. 70 cases. The tragic history of 'I can’t breathe' (as of 2020)

Police aren't primarily about helping you or solving crimes.

Police lie under oath, a lot

Police spin: An object lesson in Copspeak

Police unions and arbitrators keep abusive cops on the street

Shielded from Justice: Police Brutality and Accountability in the United States

So you wanna be a cop?

When the police knock on your door

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ORGANIZATIONS

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Why the fuck are they not being arrested for theft?

[–] Zombiepirate 27 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Because if we start holding cops responsible for their crimes we might scare away all the other cops who want to do crimes.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

We might scare the white cops away that also do the same shit. *FTFY

[–] Avatar_of_Self 4 points 6 months ago

One is being charged because they took the stand in a trial in which someone was convicted for a crime....due to their false report.

However, I'd say they should each be indicted on each count of false reports and false arrests.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago

In a particularly troubling incident, the FBI found that these two officers had unwittingly taken the murder weapon from a wanted murderer—but they were so focused on their scheme, they failed to ask for his name and released him.

That is a special level of both corrupt and incompetent.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Terminated like by a time traveling robot? No?

[–] Avatar_of_Self 4 points 6 months ago

They also illegally searched children because they were so lazy on responding to a ShotSpotter (which by the way, also has its share of criticism and abuse) response that they took a legal firearm from their mother (who were waiting on a bus and told them that she had a firearm when asked) and said they found it near the scene of the shots fired. One of the cops then said "this never happened" as they left.

[–] P1nkman 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They'll just get a job in another precinct.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

With a nice lateral hire bonus.

[–] Potatos_are_not_friends 2 points 6 months ago

I miss when people were actively confused why the NRA wasn't protecting 2A rights.