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submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by PugJesus to c/[email protected]

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After someone mentioned me without tagging me on the Return2Ozma thread drama, I decided to Lemmy search my name to see what else I was missing out on. I didn't realize I was so popular with the "People who defend tankies" demographic of Lemmy! Apparently, I'm a brainrotted liberal debate lord (simultanously, without any beliefs) who hates every leftist movement in existence, is a wedge between liberals and leftists, and sees imaginary tankies everywhere.

I mean, obviously, since I've made a whole 9 posts about them, including posts on "MeanwhileOnGrad" (5 if you exclude MeanwhileOnGrad and TankieJerk), over my past year on the Fediverse (out of ~1,570 total posts). Clearly, if it wasn't for me, the leftists would have finally joined hands with the liberals to sing kumbaya together.

That's a lot of work I have to put in when all I want to do is browse politics and post history minutiae without having to worry about people advocating genocide or fascism, but I wouldn't want to disappoint any of them!

Also, apparently they think I'm Yeetpics? Which is a strange connection to make, considering our writing styles are... very different.

EDIT: And Joe Biden's strongest warrior! Wow!

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I don't accept any of those people as left, much less "ultra left". They're rossian conservatives larping as leftists, at best

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I can't agree, they are authoritarian yes but they advocate for collectivist policies, and I've met people like them IRL so I know they are indeed real.

[–] obre 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Authoritarianism is inherently antithetical to the fundamental leftist goals of liberty and egalitarianism because it empowers an unaccountable ruling class instead of a democratic government

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

By that logic leftist anarchists aren't leftist because they don't want a government democratic or otherwise, by definition.

[–] obre 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Anarchists are radically egalitarian and libertarian and support the formation of democratic governments through voluntary free association rather than a centralized and hierarchical state

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

"Not typically/always," and those, by definition, are not "anarchists." I suppose minarchism (if we allow that to be a generic term for "minimal government" rather than "almost anarchocapitalist,") is a more apt term for them, but by definition anarchism lacks a government.

[–] obre 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Supporters of forming democratic governments through voluntary free association aren’t anarchists

But

Supporters of enslaving millions in gulags, assassinating all political opposition, crushing democratic uprisings through military force, and imperialist expansion through invasion and annexation are leftists

Did I get that right?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Nope. Find me a definition right now that says "anarchists" support "enslaving millions in gulags, assassinating all political opposition, crushing democratic uprisings through military force, and imperialist expansion through invasion and annexation" by definition.

I'll wait.

Ok so now that you're back with "Anarchism - The theory or doctrine that all forms of government are oppressive and undesirable and should be abolished," since you couldn't find your stupid bullshit anywhere, you see now how anarchists are not in support of "government," yes?

[–] obre 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

you missed the point

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago

Either you missed mine or failed to succinctly make yours.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Their advocacy for collectivist policies is the larping; they spend most of their energy pushing for fascism

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

I mean, they spend most of their energy being terminally online, but that doesn't indicate which side of the political spectrum they are on. They spend most of their time being terminally online by pushing collectivist policies in the most asshole way possible, that helps narrow it down that they're just asshole leftists. Leftists can indeed be assholes despite your unwillingness to believe it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Collectivist, until people they don't like show up at the table.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

As is the nature of many collectivists. You're either in the collective or against the collective.

[–] TrickDacy 0 points 5 months ago

rossian

Lolz

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Lol, congratulations!

[–] PugJesus 23 points 5 months ago

I've never been internet famous before! I won't let it change me, though! Unless I start getting cash too. Maybe the CIA is hiring?

[–] ganksy 18 points 5 months ago

They're blocking them selves from you. It's the third way. Teach me senpai

[–] rtxn 10 points 5 months ago

cope. seethe. mald.

[–] NOT_RICK 9 points 5 months ago

Shout out to mozz too for the honorable mention

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

I'm famous too hooray

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If it makes you feel any better, I have no fucking clue who you are.

[–] PugJesus 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Thank you, that lightens the heavy load of fame

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

Heavy is the head that wears the…I dunno, maybe a hat? Again, I have no clue who you are or what your style is like.

[–] barsquid 8 points 5 months ago

I thought "leftists" loving authoritarianism more than they love leftism might be the dominant wedge between liberals and "leftists?" Like if you get banned failing to praise a nominally left state capitalist nation that produces hundreds of billionaires, while your counterpart in the dialog is calling you a "genocidal colonialist cracker" for thinking it is a bad idea to allow Bibi's favored candidate to win.

I don't mean to downplay your involvement, though, I am sure it is significant.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

They hate us because they anus.

At least they don't misgender you, which is nice.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

They mis-theorize everyfuckingone who doesn't repeat back their own opinions adnauseum.

Then they label you an enemy based on their assumption of your beliefs.

Tell a tankie not to incite nuclear violence and give it a spin lmao.

[–] PugJesus 2 points 5 months ago

Misgendering would be damn low

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Lmao yesssss

Look at all that seethe.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I feel sad for the poor people who've blocked the roman memes guy. Seriously man, pug makes half the good content on this network, their feeds must look so sad

[–] PugJesus 4 points 5 months ago

Being known as the Roman Memes Guy and saying I spread good content on this network makes me incredibly happy, thank you! 🙏

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

More than once I've been called *PugJesus' alt account". And it feels so energizing.

You truly are the thing that haunts their dreams. Good work, chap 😎

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Lol, I just started noticing you more and more because of your grimdank posts

[–] TrickDacy 4 points 5 months ago

There are a lot of weirdos on Lemmy.