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[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 weeks ago (30 children)

I still don't understand why would I want a PS5 when I have a PC

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I could see the appeal of consoles back in the day, when they were weaker specs but much cheaper and the games just worked right out of the box. But nowadays it seems like they're just as expensive, still not as good for specs and the games are just as bug-riddled as PC games half the time. And Sony has been releasing all their big hits on PC anyway so yeah really no reason for me to get a PS5 that I can see.

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[–] Lemzlez 10 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Because my pc uses 4-5 times the power to run the same ps4-era game. (Especially nice when it’s hot in summer)

So I play it on my ps5, which offers me quick resume as well.

I love pc gaming, been building pc’s for over a decade at this point, but I do also see the advantages my ps5 has over my pc.

Could I build a more efficient and quiet pc, attach it to my tv and use that? Probably, and it’d be quite good with steamOS on it, but it’d be finicky to get sleep/resume working on it, and it’d probably cost me more.

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[–] Delusional 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

And then there are people like me who buy all the consoles just to have them and barely use them all and mainly game on the PC.

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[–] bokherif 1 points 3 weeks ago

Exclusives, simplicity, ease of use. I had a gaming PC, but switched to the PS5 only because I realized I've been using my PC like a PS5. I only play like fifa and gta now since most new games don't even excite me anymore.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (6 children)

Seems most don't live near a Microcenter and it shows!

Consoles forever crappy spec PCs.

At least I can stream my Desktop to my Steam Deck OLED with HDR even with Moonlight 🌕 + Sunshine ☀️

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[–] jordanlund 18 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

"Console sales are down. Circana analyst Mat Piscatella marked a 26% decline in spending on current-generation consoles this April compared to last April."

We're 4 years into the generation, sales declines aren't uncommon, but this gen has had unique challenges:

  1. Covid fucked it all up. Supply chain issues screwed availability, software engineering ganked game development.

  2. Too much emphasis on "Cross Gen". Why would someone scramble to get a hard to find PS5 or Xbox Series when the same game is out on PS4/Xbox One X?

Long generations are kind of the new thing, starting with Xbox 360/PS3. Previously they were around 5 years and people are looking for the next machines now.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

And people cry when games like Elite Dangerous drop console support.

Microsoft and Sony force them to develop for the lowest spec gen, so no you cannot play on your PS5/X whatever because PS4 and One X cannot run new game engine.

They were never more than 20% of the player base.

Also get your free PC copy Here 🥹

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

I somewhat understand what you are talking about but the buggy and poorly maintained Elite Dangerous isn't the best example to support your argument. BG3 getting a pass on some features for the series S is exactly what other games should be able to do if it makes sense for them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Microsoft and Sony force them to develop for the lowest spec gen

No they don’t. If the developers wanted they could have dropped support for the last gen versions for newer updates (like what cyberpunk did).

Also for what it’s worth they even had a ps4 trailer for the Odyssey dlc.

[–] ampersandrew 4 points 3 weeks ago

I think we're too far out to blame supply chain issues. PS5 is lagging behind PS4 at the same point in its life by about 20M consoles. #2 is both a symptom and a cause. Developers across the entire industry have bloated their development timelines. That means fewer games and less reacting to consumer tends. When do you think Concord started development, for instance? And do you think it still would have been made if it started after Overwatch 2 came out?

Plus, consumers seem to be gravitating toward the less restrictive open standard. If you're in Sony land, you need to replace your old controllers, even though they still work; you have to pay for online play; backwards compatibility is a bit of a dice roll, and if you want features as similar as higher resolution textures and better frame rates, they're going to sell you a remaster rather than just letting you turn up the settings. In ruling over their walled garden ecosystem and trying to extract more money from it, they've given players more and more reason to play on PC.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Pretty sure the shortest time between Playstation consoles was 6 years (PS1 > PS2 & PS2 > PS3.) Then 7 years for both PS4 and PS5.

[–] jordanlund 1 points 3 weeks ago

Playstation consoles are weird because Sony just can't let go of old hardware (unless it's the PSP).

The PS1 was in production from 1994/1995 (Japan/US) to 2006(!) So it technically overlapped both the PS2 and PS3(!)

PS2 ran from 2000 to 2013.

PS3 2006 to 2017.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The money is in the users not selling the hardware. As long as Playstation has hundreds of million daily users they will continue to make insane profit. The people will move up a generation eventually.

[–] ampersandrew 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I think what we're seeing is that people aren't choosing to move up a generation.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yea because ps4 is still getting all the releases and ps5 is really expensive. I have friends who still play on ps4 and I went to their house and they're playing games on like 20fps having a blast. It was kinda wholesome I just wish they weren't getting scammed by Sony and chose pc so they could play games that actually run on their hardware.

[–] ampersandrew 4 points 3 weeks ago

Given how much PC has grown in the same time, statistically, they are moving to PC.

[–] Katana314 12 points 3 weeks ago

Some things to say back to this:

Most people now have the console they prefer, and it’s lasting them. They don’t necessarily need new consoles. This is true EVEN if that console is a PS4, Xbox One, or Switch. They don’t get everything, but a surprising number of major releases still come to all those destinations.

It’s still nicely convenient to have consoles for less setup and configuration. Some people manage really complex problems for their work and home projects already - a desktop computer may be beyond their tolerance.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago

The one holdout among the console makers is Nintendo, whose PC strategy is still to threaten fan projects with lawsuits. Perhaps I do not have to hand it to Nintendo for this, but as a result of its obstinance, the Switch is the only console I'd consider buying as a PC gamer. Nintendo remains a one-of-a-kind gaming company, whereas Xbox and PlayStation feel less and less distinguishable from gaming at large—aka PC gaming.

I'm not sure about this analysis of the Switch's success. The "lawsuit" argument is pretty irrelevant; the console would sell regardless of whether emulation existed (as it has, for most of the big titles and for much of the console's life). I think the "one-of-a-kind" argument is accurate, but I'd also suggest that the very wide library of games is a major reason why Nintendo has performed so well in this generation. The Switch appeals to almost every single type of gamer - there is so much variety there. Additionally, the portability is clear point of difference: for many, the Switch is more like a handheld that they can occasionally play on the TV, rather than a traditional home console. And finally, the Switch is just a more affordable option and that has mattered a lot since 2020.

[–] juice702 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I’ve never been into this pc vs console cringe fest of an argument. I’ve always been a pc gamer, but guess what, some exclusives only come to consoles. If I want to play that exclusive enough and I have expendable cash, I’ll buy it. I still prefer to play on pc over any of the consoles, but a ps5 is a solid system.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I haven't had a gaming-capable PC for about a decade and I'm very happy with my PS5 (and the PS4 before it). Sony bringing exclusives to PC don't feel like the end times as it's just a way for them to make more money.

I'm genuinely glad that PC players will get to experience some of the great games that have been on the PS5 in the last few years.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

It's literally brave of you to come to this community and this thread and say that you love your console. And then to express positivity for PC users! You are exactly what we need more of in gaming.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Consoles have just been proprietary PCs since the Xbox 360. It's a wonder they've lasted this long.

Still crossing my fingers and waiting for Steam Machines 😔

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

If you have Steam on your pc, you have a steam machine. Plug it into your tv if you want a bigger screen experience

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I own a PS5 and only play Don't Starve together because they only enable couch coop on console. Bullshit lazy PC devs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

If I'm ever getting a PS, then it's only because of Don't Starve split screen gaming.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

the real problem for me was paying toplay online games and having no way to install games but the ps store

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