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[–] disguy_ovahea 103 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

That’s probably because your president is committing mass genocide of Ukrainians by abducting 700,000 of their children to be raised as Russians.

https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/russia-ukraine-war-news-07-31-23/h_169f15b2ddbb285cc94c1f0e1ee21080

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Do you think a random Russian citizen who is trying to leave Russia has anything to do with this?

Many of the people trying to leave Russia are against the war. It is idiotic to shame civilians who have little to no power to stop the actions of their oligarch run government.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

She says:

I can't stand it anymore because our real nationality is strong

Not sure what to make of this. We only have a video of an upset girl. Is she being treated unfairly? Who the fuck knows. All I know is that it plays perfectly into the Kremlin's propaganda: We are the good guys and the world hates us for no good reason.

[–] CoffeeJunkie 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I don't think Kremlin propaganda involves runaways seeking life elsewhere. Particularly their young women. That's a really bad look for Russia.

[–] Glitterbomb 7 points 2 weeks ago

Kremlin propaganda constantly involves polishing a turd until it shines. They're going to have that 'bad look' one way or another, how do they twist it to make it work for them.

Turds are all they ever have, and they shine them well.

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[–] iarigby 16 points 2 weeks ago (10 children)

itt: a bunch of people spoiled by the fortune of not meeting enough actual Russians. They are overwhelmingly supportive of the war as it is fully aligned with the nation’s imperialistic identity, one that existed long before Putin was even born. Russia has amazing, brilliant, heroic opposition activists which are a slim minority, I’ve been told less than 1%. The rest are mostly like this woman (or worse)

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Do you think a random Russian citizen who is trying to leave Russia has anything to do with this?

No but that's not a defence for her entitlement. Did she say "look,I totally despise what Russia ia doing in Ukrainians and how its undermining other countires and I don't supoort that".. No, not once did she say that.. Fuck her. I'll save my empathy for the folks slaughtered in Bucha.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago

It's also sending swarms of kgb assets into western countries to fuck with, media, elections, sabotage etc. There should be a MUCH higher barrier of entry for Russians

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[–] [email protected] 86 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I watched it a few times and I think I broke the code. She's talking like the issue is that she's suffering all this anti-Russian-person racism everywhere she goes, but it's pretty unlikely that anything like that is happening. But something made her upset.

I think she wants to come into the US, and US immigration doesn't want her to, and she identifies that as "hatred" for the Russians because she's supposed to be able to do whatever she wants because she's Russian, not have to do some kind of dodge through Mexico and not like these Mexicans and Brazilians that she mentions. She feels humiliated that she has to ask permission, and maybe the answer will be no fuck off get lost.

Honestly, I will be the last person to say that US immigration is always decent and fair. But someone not being nice to you or treating you special is not the same as them hating you. If you want to say US immigration is being a pain in the ass and it's unfair that it's gonna fuck up your life, then fine. But saying you need to be exempt from it because you're Russian specifically, makes you into a special specific kind of person.

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[–] [email protected] 84 points 2 weeks ago (11 children)

but we never do aggressive things

Holy snapping duckshit you’re so far removed from reality that you’re in your own separate omniverse and that’s absolutely impossible

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[–] Godnroc 59 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

When the people do not know what their government is doing they cannot understand why others hate them. Nationality can be a badge of honor and a hood over your eyes.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago

About 20 years ago I read this:

Americans say, "I don't know why people hate us", and that is why people hate Americans.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

it's the invading of soverign nations... multiple times....

oh and all the war crimes

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

we never do aggressive things

Lady, some guys are at the door looking for you, asking "WTF?!?" In Chechen, Ossetian, and Ukrainian... Oh wait there's a guy loudly yelling in Finnish coming around the corner with his buddies from Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania... OMG they've got torches and pitchforks, saying that they're looking for their friends on this list https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspicious_deaths_of_notable_Russians_(2022%E2%80%932024)

I do realize that she's talking about individual Russians not being aggressive. And I know that I shouldn't find it so funny, that she's having this wake up call from the world... But I find it absolutely hilarious. You want others to like you? How about treating people better? And if your country's the problem then revolt.

[–] niktemadur 23 points 2 weeks ago

You want others to like you? How about treating people better?

From a certain perspective, what she and others like her are saying is - "I hate being treated the way we treat others" - which is a lazy, mindless posture as old as time itself.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 weeks ago

Now why would the world hate russia, hmmm? Could it be the war and killing you do in Ukraine? The threats against other democracies? The bullying of other countries and persons? The megalomaniac tendencies of that monkey putin?

No sympathy from me...

[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 weeks ago (11 children)

It is really difficult to believe morons like this exist.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I would argue that most people are almost completely oblivious to the world around them. This lady has been fed pro Russian propaganda her whole life so of course the real world is shocking. How could everything she was taught be wrong?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Instead of whining to the camera, they could just do a quick google search, with all the same questions, instead of blaming the whole world.

Instead, we got this "why are people so mean to russians, we are the best" overdramatic nonsense, because her daddy's money couldn't buy her something in the real world.

These are, of course, assumptions.

[–] iarigby 14 points 2 weeks ago

I know but they swamped my country when the war started and I can tell you with full and tragic confidence that this is legit (and even worse, typical)

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[–] CaptainKickass 30 points 2 weeks ago
[–] Roflmasterbigpimp 20 points 2 weeks ago

Russains here hate Russians

NGL that was funny af.

[–] Anticorp 16 points 2 weeks ago

I don't hate Russians. I'm not fond of Russia though.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago

I try to put myself in their situation. As much as I am against this stupid war and Putin, if I was born in a country under dictatorship, I'd probably be brainwashed or too afraid to speak my mind too.

[–] random_character_a 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh boy. This is a tough one.

In one part every citizen is in small part accountable for their government, if nothing else then through inaction. Then again they might be leaving their country, because they or their family member took action. With all this hate will it decrease the chance of somebody taking action?

But what if we look at this from East European perspective? They were under Soviet boot for decades as second rate citizens in their own country. Russians controlling everyting through inserted puppet government. Russians spoke alot about comradeship, but their stance was clear that Russians were higher breed. Do they have more right to hate every Russian?

Hate is nothing new to Russians, they see it everywhere, due to the countries history of agressive foreign policies and spy operations.

This makes me think this is just a propaganda bit. Primarily aimed for domestic use. "Don't leave Russia, they'll just hate you."

[–] Duamerthrax 4 points 2 weeks ago

This makes me think this is just a propaganda bit.

This seems like the most likely case. Could be official or volunteer because they think it will get them brownie points for a real propaganda job.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago

I think this is one of the few entry points for other Russians to start a conversation and maybe question your propaganda based selfimage

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

Classic white monkey post

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[–] Thcdenton 4 points 2 weeks ago

Get used to it lady.

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