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Biden Expected to Sign Executive Order Restricting Asylum (www.nytimes.com)

submitted 5 months ago by slurpinderpin to c/politics

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[–] Rapidcreek 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Wall Street Journal reports.

“The order, which Biden plans to sign alongside several mayors from southern-border communities, will restrict the flow of migrants over the border by making it illegal to claim asylum if someone crosses into the U.S. illegally. The move is expected to be met with legal challenges, and in any event could prove tough to implement without significant additional funding from Congress.”

I understand the political impetus around this, but I suspect the courts will overturn at least the asylum restriction part. The right to claim asylum is an integral part of both US and international law.

Of course the real answer is not to ban asylum claims after crossing illegally - it is to modernize our system of dealing with such claims so they are adjudicated quickly and fairly, as well as to improve the options for applying from outside of the US.

But that would require a significant investment in improving the system that Republicans in Congress will never agree to. They don't actually want to "fix the border" - they want a campaign issue in vilifying brown-skinned people.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Yes it's using a shaky interpretation of an older law from the 50s to derive its authority, good chance a court challenge would be successful against the order, if the order is able to even change much on its own at all with the lack of funding as you pointed out.

Importantly one of the Republican arguments against attempts at any immigration reform has been, "Biden could just do what we want right now with existing laws, so we refuse to compromise with the democrats on anything or pass a new immigration law, Biden can just shut everything down right now with no action on congress's part." So if a court strikes this order down would undercut that argument at least. Would also make me happy, since I don't support this order.

Improving access to legal immigration and improving thoroughput of asylum claims processing are what's necessary.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago

Can we stop screwing over people after destroying their former homes?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago

the harm reduction candidate, everyone!

[–] TheDeepState -2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Why does Biden hate immigrants?

[–] tsonfeir 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The new rule aims to expedite the process by which asylum seekers can be deemed ineligible for asylum based on specific criteria, such as “national security risks” (whatever that means) or prior criminal convictions, much earlier in the process. This allows for quicker removal of individuals who do not meet the eligibility requirements for asylum.

The policy intends to streamline asylum processing and enhance border security by addressing eligibility during the initial screening stage rather than later in the process. This approach is expected to help manage the high volume of asylum claims and reduce the backlog in immigration courts.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So its actual reform to the process and not just dumping money on the problem and claiming its reform while doing nothing else? The fuck Biden I thought America was inspired by Rome, we should be making the process more Byzantine and Esoteric not less.

[–] tsonfeir 1 points 5 months ago

Ultimately, the idea is to put the people who need it more first. I’ll believe it when I see it, but this better than a wall!

[+] [email protected] -15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

This is why nazis are handles with kid gloves. To trick you into believing the right spectrum politicians are somewhat left leaning.

And it works, thanks to a two party system… what are you legally allowed to do about it? Freedom to choose and vote.

Gonna pick full on Facism? No? Facism-light it is.

Suddenly for this an executive order can be signed, other stuff not possible, but this is. Makes me sick.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I'm going to assume you mean the democrats when you say "facism-light"

Why do you think they are facism-light? (Asking this as a non-american, trying to understand different points of views)

[–] slurpinderpin 8 points 5 months ago

Because they aren't far enough left for people like him. Even though they do WAAAAAY more for the everyday person than Republicans will ever do

[+] [email protected] -9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

The biggest tell is how people who identify as left all hete Bidden.

Theres a famous comment by nixons right hand on the war on drugs. They wanted to get rid of the

“anti-war left”

The same anti war left is currently involved in global protests against the genocide in Palestine. That phenomenon is not just the US, Its was not reported in any news i saw but i know off at least one more then a week long building getting occupied in a university in europe.

The Bidden administration has very recently low key responded to these protest by changing the definition of antisemitism to interpret the state of Israel as a jewish collective. Therefor any critics of the state of Israel becomes a crime.

Where are the laws they did they enact when nazis where marching the streets and cultists stormed a government building? Yes some are jailed after a long time, its similar to the pride flags. The occasional token bone to pretend to card.

Theres the general the unwielding support for the genecide. Bombing civilian tents with us weapons did not cross any red lines to continue to provide so.

Is it a coincidence that the victims are all muslim? As a lefty i preach tolerance. Also for the existence off dumb religions overseas that may not be so tolerant of my freedom in person.

Also right leaning:

pro corporate, America is a capitalist country but business with the same right as people is the opposite of woke.
war on drugs still very much exists
still no social healthcare like basically every other western nation.

I get its often not as simple as flick a switch to solve issues and many issues are systematically grown. But people have been yelling Bidden to use some of that presidential power and him doing it now to restrict asylum which is also a right leaning thing to do is a cherry on top of all the lies.

People should still vote and the most left you can vote is D but i am really hopping that once the threat of Trump is gone there becomes some room to roast them in a national protest.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The biggest tell is how people who identify as left all hete Bidden.

Really? Your best evidence of Biden/democrats being fascist is that people on the left hate them?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Facism-light. As in Right with authoritarian tendencies who are in bed with the corporations. The Democrats are not Nazis, there just don't mind them.

I am against assault of any kind, Our biggest concern should be fixing the damn ecosystems of our planet. Everything else is a distraction. The economy can be worth wadever people believe it is but its not worth nothing if we go extinct.

Even in Europe some progressive parties are shifting to the right and social healthcare is getting eroded.

I get that we can't just all stop going to work cause i am still being a cog in the machine that destroys itself myself but holy fuck can we got someone good in charge?

[–] FlowVoid 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

what are you legally allowed to do about it?

You can try to primary the Democrats who you don't like

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

I’m sorry your views aren’t in the majority.
By the way, is this givesomefucks?