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I guess I shouldn't let it bother me, but another Lemming called me a mutt and insinuated I was trash for being Irish by dna (lemmy.world)

submitted 7 months ago by ParabolicMotion to c/offmychest

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All I did was mention that I was mostly Scottish and Irish by dna. I didn’t even mention being part English and Welsh, too. Another reader saw my comment and decided to call me a “mutt” for being born in America. He also tried to insinuate I was worth less than him because he says he is English by dna. It really bothers me when someone reaches out to bully a stranger online, assuming he is superior to that other user. I added a screenshot so people can see one of the supremacy comments this guy made.

I’d honestly like to meet this person and see what he looks like. I’m curious to know the face behind the supremacy act on this guy.

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[–] LordOfLocksley 10 points 6 months ago (3 children)

You're both cringe for claiming you're something other than American. If you have the faintest understanding of the history of America, you'll realise that having British Isles/Western European DNA is nothing special.

If you're white and hold an American passport your DNA is mostly coming from white settlers, aka British/Irish/French/Scandinavian.

Claiming to be those is disrespectful for the people who actually live in those countries.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

I actually am from England though, as I was born and raised in England. This person is an American pretending to be something else.

[–] bitchkat 1 points 6 months ago

What if you fit all that but are a naturalized citizen?

[+] ParabolicMotion -8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

I lived abroad in Ireland and had a residency card.

I have no idea why my comment was downvoted . Downvoting me won’t make it any less true that I have actually lived abroad in Ireland.

[–] danl 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You’re being (rightfully imo) downvoted because living in Ireland for a few years doesn’t change your heritage. Moving to Japan gives you some insight, sure, but you wouldn’t expect us to believe it gives you Japanese heritage.

That said, belonging is decided by the group, not the individual. If Irish people genuinely think of you as culturally Irish, then that’s what you are.

[–] ParabolicMotion -5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

So if a Japanese American applied for a scholarship that was only available to people of Japanese heritage, you would deny it to them because they were not born and raised in Japan? I disagree. The same sense should be applied to European Americans. We don’t deserve to be stripped of our heritage just because we are also American. A lot of the culture that goes along with Irish Americans has transcended from Ireland and the ancestors who lived in it their whole lives. You wouldn’t just put a label on me that says “American” and tell me my heritage is the same as the Americans who are participating in Mexican folklorico dances with traditional Mexican heritage dresses, and authentic mariachi bands, would you? I think it’s unfair to tell Americans that they are “just Americans”. Americans are so much more than that, and the word “American” doesn’t need to replace the culture with which we were raised and influenced.

[–] LordOfLocksley 1 points 6 months ago

Modern day Ireland and modern day America couldn't be more different. Back in the early 1700s you could claim they were similar, but these days they are so far apart.

I would, and do, put a label on everyone from USA that calls them American. LeBron is an American, you are an American, Ken Yong is American. You're all American. Nothing more. American. American. American.

Your culture is so different from anything in Europe, there is no comparison. It's American culture.

It'll be a cold day in hell before any European recognises an American LARPing as one of them.

[–] LordOfLocksley 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I lived in the Netherlands for 7 years, could speak fairly decent Dutch, and had permanent residency... I don't consider myself Dutch at all.

Likewise living in Ireland for a while didn't make you Irish

[–] ParabolicMotion -2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

On that same note, if I were born in communist China, I would never call myself Chinese. Someone who lives in America and happens to have dna ties to China would not be corrected for stating that they are Chinese by dna. Why should that same sentiment be any different for European Americans?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

On that same note, if I were born in communist China, I would never call myself Chinese.

What does China being communist or not have anything to do with this conservation?

[–] LordOfLocksley 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Thank you for proving my point. DNA isn't nearly as important as where you grew up.

Please never use the phrase European American ever again. It's pathetic. I'm surprised you haven't claimed to be related to the British royal family, just to try and out do the other "European Americans".

[–] ParabolicMotion -3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You really have a high opinion of yourself and it really isn’t warranted.

[–] LordOfLocksley 3 points 6 months ago

Actually, I just have a really low opinion of Americans claiming to be European

[–] Cypher 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

He’s probably actually European and not some cosplaying American like you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yep born and bred in England.

[–] Retrograde -2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

England* left Europe though, remember

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Check the usernames

[–] Retrograde 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

mmm. Yeah fair enough but are you real though

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

No I didn't. Literally never been to America.

[–] dogsnest 2 points 6 months ago

But your ancestral makeup suggests you're actually Great Britainish, or perhaps United Kingdomish.

They're not mutts. Just extremely inbred.

[–] CobblerScholar 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Reading that one comment without context makes them look like they're trying to use you for their kink a la "baby bird" imo

[–] ParabolicMotion -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Hahahaha! Does he see himself as King George III?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

You don't get it do you? The English conquered and oppressed the Scottish, Welsh, and Irish. If distant heritage is all that matters to you then surely I should be here oppressing you.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

This post is massive misinformation. They claimed to be "Irish and Scotish" yet they were born in America. It's classic Americans pretending to be something they aren't to make themselves sound cooler, because it's not cool to be American. They then start claiming they are descended from British royalty and all sorts of things. They took that comment out of context to make me look like the bad guy. Also tried saying they had stronger blood than me or some shit. It's mental.