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How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] [email protected] 84 points 7 months ago (7 children)

The Arizona Senate has passed a bill intended to address “anti-God, pro-Marxist ideology” by banning the use of public funds to combat climate change. The bill would also allow Arizona residents to sue any town, city, institution, or public university they believe has violated the provisions of the bill, even if they are not affiliated with it.

What the actual fuck is wrong with Republicans?

 

What the actual fuck??!!

[–] tsonfeir 27 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It’s brain damage. Lead, lack of oxygen, microplastics, what have you. Mix that with fear, anxiety, narcissism, etc and you have the perfect right-wing voter. A “do as your told” voter.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Most of the water-born microplastics are tire dust. Byproducts of car-dependent modern life.

And, as someone else in the thread quoted, another requirement of the law is a full ban of any policies designed to increase walkability or access to transit, which would be the way to fight back against those microplastics.

The most important rule for conservatives: they do not want to turn over a better world to their children. They want their children to suffer in all the same ways they did. They believe progress is inherently bad and must be resisted. And I mean, of course they do... that's the definition of "conservative".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

And I mean, of course they do... that's the definition of "conservative"

That was the definition a long time ago. Nowadays it's not about resisting progress or conserving anything. They actually fight hard now for progression... into the wrong direction.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

It's not brain damage. That's another form of the perennial "it'll be fine once the oldies are dead" fantasy. It's just regular not-too-smartness plus selfishness and the fear and personality issues you identify. If nothing changes there will be plenty of people like this in the lead-free generations too.

[–] tsonfeir 3 points 7 months ago

Brain damage is not limited to the elderly. Also, environmental brain damage is never going to go away. There is no waiting for them to die.

[–] pleasejustdie 25 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Political theater, they know the governor will just veto it

[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago

Yes, but it's a performance they have determined will win them votes. That's the scary part.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago

The governor will veto this if this actually reaches her, but they're tell us what they will do if we give them the power to.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Apparently anything they do not like is anti-God and pro-Marxist. Not sure how being green is anti-God since it means you are being the keeper of the domain left to us. Not sure how preventing companies from getting a free ride by not allowing them to pollute everyone else's air is pro-Marxist.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

Apparently wanting your desert state to remain habitable is anti-God and Marxist.

[–] CobblerScholar 10 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Then I'm suing every politician in Arizona who's public office has an air conditioner

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

It's OK though: air conditioners make climate change worse. So they're doing their Republican part.

[–] AngryCommieKender 0 points 7 months ago

Just hit the GOP and Democrats. Let's make a third party viable in AZ

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I’m willing to bet I can distinguish whether someone is a Republican from an fMRI scan fairly consistently based on markers for psychopathy.

[–] Delusional 3 points 7 months ago

Well just like usual, republicans sat in their daily "how can we make the US a worse place to live in" meeting and came up with this shithole of an idea.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Fuck god. Hey, god, fuck you!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

I'll see you in hell. It will probably be cooler there (literally) than on the Earth as envisioned by Republicans.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I just don't get how anyone can be this awful.

[–] Burn_The_Right 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Most conservatives lack the capacity for empathy. Generally, any empathy displayed by a conservative toward a stranger is performative. They tend to see interactions as transactional and see empathy as a weakness to exploit.

Conservatives are entertained and even delighted by the misery of others. They will gleefully harm themselves as long as their action also harms others. Then, they will celebrate the misery they have caused as a "win".

This is who conservatives have always been. It is who they will always be.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

You mean GOP Voters yeah ?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Wait until they completely run out of damn water and it will happen under GOP leadership.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

They'll just say God's punishing them for not killing the right people, then they'll double down.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

Good thing the governor is a Democrat and will likely veto this bill.