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[–] anamethatisnt 10 points 5 months ago

For details follow the link. This is nothing more than the headlines.

Finances
The GNOME Foundation reserves policy says that the buffer is too low to run at a deficit any longer, which it has done for three years. This years budget is a break-even budget.

Strategy & Fundraising
A five year strategic plan has been prepared and a draft approved by the board. A variety of fundraising activies will be launched over the coming months.

Board Development
More directors are being added to reduce workload on individual board members. Non-voting officer seats will be added for the same reason.

Elections
Annual board elections is coming up, 6 seats are being elected.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Wait, I thought they are recipient of Sovereign Tech Fund. Didn't that help them with their budget?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago

It's probably best to assume that since that funding was provided to be used with a specific focus, they didn't (and/or couldn't) use it for the Foundation's maintenance.

[–] TheGrandNagus 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Likely earmarked for development.

And Gnome Foundation handles non-development stuff, like hackathons, Guadec, community outreach, liaising with other projects/governments/companies, etc. not to mention boring legal stuff like copyright of their name and icons and all that jazz.

It's basically the non-development part of the project.

[+] TCB13 -8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

You know, they were too busy wasting money on reinventing the wheel and coming up with "a vision" to be able to sort their budget.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

We get it, you don't like gnome. That doesn't mean they waste money. Some of us like the desktop gasps

[–] TheGrandNagus 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Wasting? Gnome is amazing. Money and time extremely well spent.

I get that some people hate that Gnome isn't another WinUX desktop, but they need to get over it. Either accept it and adapt to a more modern workflow, add an extension like Dash to Panel, or use one of the dozen other desktop environments, most of which are designed with a WinUX or something similar.

I also don't really see why you're putting quotes around vision lol. Every project has a vision.

[+] TCB13 -6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

"GNOME Foundation To Focus On Fundraising After Years Running A Deficit"

So... If I throw half a million at them I'll get native desktop icons back?

[–] TheGrandNagus 15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Desktop icons were removed because they're (at least in the devs' opinions), a poor solution. They're always covered as soon as you have a program open, add clutter, and on most machines, the desktop just becomes a dumping ground for rubbish that really shouldn't be there. I'm sure we've all seen systems with all kinds of crap strewn about the user's desktop.

Tbh, I can't say I disagree. I also think they're a bad solution and that Gnome shouldn't chase a feature just because people have it on Windows. Gnome makes zero attempt to be a traditional Windows-like desktop. It irks some people, but it's the devs' choice and you don't have to use their software.

Gnome foundation could have a billion in the bank, they still wouldn't add that, because it's not about not being able to afford to implement it, they just don't want it in their project.

If you want them, installing an extension will probably take under 10 seconds. Some distros that use Gnome already have it installed out of the box.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

This is one of the reason I love GNOME's philosophy. They don't dogmatically follow convention and it shapes up the desktop to have a unique workflow that I really miss on other operating systems.

[–] TCB13 -5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Desktop icons were removed because they’re (at least in the devs’ opinions), a poor solution.

They were removed because they were never able to make them working properly. It was always an hack and had multiple issues. ANY other OS and DE has desktop icons...

[–] TheGrandNagus 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Nope. They had it and removed it, and there are plenty of extensions to add them back if you (for some ungodly reason) want them. They're not in vanilla Gnome because they don't want them. And they're right.

Practically all other DEs copy Windows, so yeah, of course they'll have Windows UX elements.

[–] TCB13 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

and there are plenty of extensions to add them back if you (for some ungodly reason) want them

All the extensions are plagued by the same issue they had before. Drag and drop from apps never working properly, the icon grid behaves incorrectly sometimes and other cosmetic glitches.

[–] TheGrandNagus 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Nope. They work fine. Several distros even use them out of the box without issue.

[–] TCB13 -2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You clearly never used those extensions.

[–] TheGrandNagus 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Not for a long time, no. I prefer zero extensions. But back when I did... zero issues.

And right now millions of people do and I don't see widespread issues.

I think you're letting your irrational hatred cloud your judgement..

[–] TCB13 1 points 5 months ago

And right now millions of people do and I don’t see widespread issues.

It's not a widespread issue, it's something with the desktop icon extensions and the original implementation. In both cases the drag and drop from/to apps never worked fine.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You misunderstand. It was never a mistake. It was always an unfinished project because no one gave a flying....for anything that was of zero value.

Just because you want to use a tweak that carries too little organization and don't care for the much more efficient method they replaced it with doesn't mean you can't go use gorram any other desktop.

Bye!

[–] TCB13 -3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

It was always an unfinished project because no one gave a flying

No, I didn't misunderstood, I know it was yet another GNOME unfinished project. Both the native thing and the extensions always had/have the same problems - drag and drop from apps never working properly, the icon grid behaves incorrectly sometimes and other cosmetic glitches.

for anything that was of zero value.

Now this is the thing, desktop icons are basic DE functionality and even Apple - the guys that actually know how to design anything - agree they should be there... at least with an option to turn them ON/OFF. The removal of desktop icons was simply the "GNOME vision" being used as an excuse not the fix something that was hard to fix.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

If you are wanting a traditional desktop you shouldn't use gnome. You can arrange your icons on the overview screen.