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[–] [email protected] 41 points 8 months ago (6 children)

I searched for the keywords "vert" and "tabs" and found nothing.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago

its in the works, they have confirmed that vertical tabs are coming

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Sidebery is an excellent extension for that. I really doubt Mozilla is going to make one as good as that.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Do you have experience with tree style tabs extensions also?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

Different person, but I started using vertical tabs a few weeks ago and gave both extensions a try for a few days.

I'm using Sideberry now. It seems more polished to me with lots more features. I particularly like how well it integrates with Firefox containers and that you can create tab groups, which are essentially tabs for tabs.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Yeah, sidebery is much much better

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

I used Sideberry for a while, but I tried out one called Tab Stash and I think it's much better overall than Sideberry personally

[–] NightAuthor -2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Is there an extension to drag out tabs seamlessly into another window like you can do with chromium.

[–] WheelcharArtist 17 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Isn't this already built in?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

No, I don't think so. You can drag out windows but they don't for example snap to the corners immediately, so you have to release them first and then pick them up again.

[–] NightAuthor 4 points 8 months ago

I looked into it further at one point, there’s some other change that needs to happen before that feature can me implemented. The issue was documented over a decade ago… but I’d have to learn a ton about how FF works to even start to understand how to make the changes needed.

I can say that for now, the logic is pretty basic, hide the tab, attach a little screenshot of the tab to the cursor, create a window with the content of that tab if the mouse is released outside of the browser window.

Maybe I’ll dig into the code again at some point

[–] TheGrandNagus 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's in the nightly builds, although when they announced it they (bizarrely) received a lot of hate for it, so I'm not sure they'll continue development.

[–] Shadowedcross 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Why would people hate on them for adding a commonly requested feature?

[–] TheGrandNagus 1 points 8 months ago

I have no idea. I just remember the thread where they announced it there was a lot of vitriol over it. I remember a couple were due to it "not being original", which seems like an insane reason to me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You should probably open an issue about this

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It is widely talked about, I'm sure someone has.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Why? Why not an extra bar like all other browsers? I suppose that is possible too? But idk.

I would really like to get some shortcuts for some sites.

Also, I think tab groups are way more important. SimpleTabGroups is constantly losing its state, containers, pinned bookmarks, its a total pain.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Why?

Because It is better for reading on websites. Normally there is just a ton of space to the sides of the text, and it would make more sense to actually use it.

Why not an extra bar like all other browsers?

What... do you mean? They have the top bar like other browsers. A lot of other browsers have vertical tabs now too.

I would really like to get some shortcuts for some sites.

Add them then?

Also, I think tab groups are way more important.

I never said they aren't. Also, they do have container tabs, they just hide it in about:config.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Yeah these are 2 separate things, both important.

Horizontal tabs, in the hidden "compact" mode dont take up lots of space, less space than vertical ones.

A sidebar would conflict with vertical tabs I think. Like in Brave, where you can add just a few sites.

Tab containers are way more important than groups and a killer feature of FF.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Another security feature added is the blocking of downloading files from URLs that are on lists of potentially dangerous content.

Yeah, I'm not sure blocking HTTP downloads by default is a good idea, I mean many offices probably have some internal legacy HTTP only sites that nobody dares to touch, that are perfectly safe being HTTP (if you have hackers inside your network a simple intranet site spoofing is your least problem), and disabling this security option might have a lot of wider repercussions

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I get it, but you're arguing in favour of negligent IT. If nobody dares to touch something, it is a liability.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I would say he's arguing in favour of practicality

[–] [email protected] -2 points 8 months ago

There's no good reason to be using :80 even internally.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Edge has started doing that too, whenever I download something from my Home Assistant instance while at home I have to rightclick and say that I really want to download it.

As long as such an option is available its not too bad.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

It's not just about that, people will be disabling the feature that is potentially beneficial to their security, disabling http downloads from http sites is just an extension of blocking http downloads from https sites

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Wake me up when the popover API is in. Might be next version, nice!