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[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's what you get when you vote right wing into your government. Fascists feel accepted and they are only against molestation when done by the evil foreigners. When it's done by their own they see women as cattle for men to ogle and touch. Never believe their lies about being for "equality" or women's rights.

[–] MetaPhrastes 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The decision has been taken by a college of judges of the court (which is even worse than a single person).

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

College of judges reminds me of those animal group names. Like murder of crows

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Didn't this judge come from the prior left-wing populist government?

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Someone should have asked the judge if they would be ok with a 66 year old janitor groping their crotch for 10 seconds in the court room right now

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago

I think you meant 9 seconds. 9 seconds are alright.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I mean one could grope him in the face for a very small amount of time and should be fine /s

[–] Maiznieks 4 points 1 year ago

Welll, pretty sure they would be okay and manage to finish within that timespan too.

[–] MetaPhrastes 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As an Italian, I feel truly ashamed. There is another case on the news in these days concerning the reduction of the sentence for a man who killed and torn to pieces his ex girlfriend due to "his being very affectionate but her being too libertine". What has gone wrong with this country?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How are these kind of stories received by the general public?

Do you get the sense that the acceptance of this behavior is pushed on the public from above, or is this genuinely what large parts of the population consider OK?

[–] MetaPhrastes 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The one about the "10-seconds rule" for sexual harassment generated a flood of ironic videos on TikTok and was in general received very badly by younger generations because the girl was "one of them" and they could relate. The other one is received with total indifference. Plus there's another: the son of the president of the Senate has been accused of rape and his father publicly declared that she was on drug/she waited 40 days to "remember" and sue the complaint so she is unreliable. All in a very short amount of time. To me it's a generational clash, unfortunately the younger don't have right to vote (and if they do they don't go voting) and the ones who rule are white/male chauvinists.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, I can almost see the point that there needs to be a criteria to draw a line where there's no way to call it accidental or incidental contact on a legal level.

However, I just groped my wife's bobs for five seconds and she asked if it was foreplay or just because I was bored.

So, I think we can safely say that it sure as fuck isn't ten seconds before it can be definitively called groping for the purposes of assault if five seconds between a couple is going to be noticeable as more than a friendly way of saying hello.

In other words, the judge is fucking crazy lol.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago

Not to mention that

a) going under the plaintiff's outer clothing very clearly moves the onus of demonstrating that it was accidental back on the accused's side, because no reasonable third-party can accept that you can accidentally slip and fall into someone's pants

and

b) the accused admitted that the action was intentionally non-consensual, but their defence was that the motive was non-malicious

Even before we look at the duration, there are other factors that make the case way more clear-cut than this judge thinks it is.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

He admitted to groping the student without consent, but said it was a joke.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Der Boy hat nur 1 joke gemaked.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

This is so profoundly sad.

What was going through the head of the judge when making this decision?

What kind of society raises citizens that reach the conclusion that this kind of behavior is considered acceptable?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Easy: Grab the judges balls for 9 seconds or so as a fully legal form of protest

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