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[–] [email protected] 59 points 7 months ago (4 children)

What's a "pavement princess"?

[–] Motorheadbanger 91 points 7 months ago (2 children)

An "off-road" vehicle that's never been off-road

[–] [email protected] 54 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I heard it from my truck friends, and this is what I understand too. A truck driver who "has" to own a truck for some flimsy reason, but end up driving it to their office every day. The truck never (or rarely) goes off road, tows anything, or is used for actual truck things.

In essence, you don't need a truck, you could easily rent one from the home depot for $20 twice a year and be perfectly fine

[–] [email protected] 30 points 7 months ago (7 children)

In essence, you don't need a truck, you could easily rent one from the home depot for $20 twice a year and be perfectly fine

But how am i supposed to feel like a big man without the ability endanger the lives of everyone around me???

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago

Oh no! Does this mean I'll need to develop an actual personality with my own likes and dislikes without following what I think will make me look manly?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Don't worry, there are many other ways to make others feel unsafe

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Like a red hat!

[–] captainlezbian 2 points 7 months ago

Drive a lifted civic with the brightest lights you can get pointed directly at the mirror of anyone in front of you who drives a reasonable vehicle.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (4 children)

What does one need a truck for anyway? They seen highly unpractical as working vehicles.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I know actual farmers and seems like they use a trailer more than a truck. Which makes sense, because they can just remove it when unneeded

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

So as a farmer here in Canada, it depends where you live and what you farm. We use a lot of trailers, but they are all pulled by truck. The most common hookup methods for large trailers are gooseneck or 5th wheel, both of which require a truck as the connection point is right above the rear axle to improve towing capacity and handling.

My farm's heavy truck is a 1-ton flatbed with tilt deck and gooseneck hitch as well as a pintle hitch. This truck allows me to pull livestock trailers, hay wagons and farm equipment, and haul pallets, tanks and bagged goods, a very versatile truck.

It also drinks fuel like you wouldn't believe, so if I'm not hauling I drive an efficient diesel car when I go to the city (~200km)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

Yeah, I usually see farmers use a 4WD with a trailer, or just their tractors. Trucks aren’t really a thing here, just the occasional douchebag who has imported one from the US.

For uses like construction and other blue collar work people use vans. Lots of storage space, and it’s enclosed so protected against the elements and from theft.

[–] mojofrododojo 4 points 7 months ago

modern trucks for sure, they're - at least in the US from personal experience - frequently FAR oversized for their actual use needs.

I had an s-10 second hand in the 90s and it was crazy gas efficient and handy as a hammer. not a highway cruiser or a gigantic hauler, but it handled lumber and sod and shingles just fine. for some reason, they literally don't make a truck that size anymore. same with the Kei truck form factor - it's just gone, the only I see here in the US are old, pre-2010 stock.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

They're very common in my country. Most taxis are Toyota pickup trucks. They are great on dirt roads and you can fit a lot of people, animals, and groceries in the back.

It's also great for bicycles.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I live in America and the people (princesses) here drive pickups for very different reasons.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I live in America too. Its two big continents with many countries

[–] NegativeInf 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

As someone from the USA, specifically in Texas, it's hilarious to watch people lose their minds when you tell them Mexicans or Brazilians are Americans as well.

It's like some people don't understand geography.

[–] captainlezbian 3 points 7 months ago

Hey, we have a government program in the US that pays people to learn geography. All you have to do is hold guns on world heritage sites (a friend of mine once had to secure ziggurats)

[–] John_McMurray 1 points 7 months ago

Or you pretend to not understand the (localish on a continental level) language you're speaking. I'm not from the states, don't call me an American, if we're speaking English. Portugese or Spanish, yeah, it depends, but mostly on who's saying it.

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[–] captainlezbian 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They’re great for hauling medium amounts of heavy shit and for hitching. So if you’re building a whole house it may not be perfect, but you probably can put your tools in the bed and use a trailer for lumber. But if you’re a carpenter or a mason you can throw a fair amount of wood or stone or brick in the bed and it wont have an issue

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

but you probably can put your tools in the bed

But that’s still impractical, you can only put your tools in there temporarily, but you can’t leave them unattended in an open truck bed or they would get stolen. Over here carpenters, masons, electricians and people in similar occupations usually use vans. Often they have shelves and other storage solutions in their van for their tools. Here are some examples (text is in Dutch but the photos are self explanatory).

You can still use a trailer with a van, and they often have roof-racks for things like long pieces of lumber, a ladder, etc. In comparison a truck just seems way less practical than a van.

[–] captainlezbian 2 points 7 months ago

Yeah that makes a lot of sense. I know farmers use open bed trucks for stuff like dirt and manure. The bed is a plus there as you can use a tarp to keep it in in transport then wash it out after. So yeah we wind up with farmers having trucks, some trades like masons use either, and tradesfolks like plumbers and electricians where they have a lot of tools and equipment that needs to be kept organized go with vans. It’s just that we have a metric fuck ton of arable land and as such a lot of farmers (though often it’s a capital intensive hobby) anywhere remotely rural. This results in pickup trucks being the iconic vehicle of the rural American and part of their identity even if they’re an accountant.

[–] John_McMurray 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

They don't make many vans that can tow a 24,000 lb gvw gooseneck trailer filled to capacity with lumber (Centurion did, once upon a time) there's bumper hitch lumber trailers that my half ton cannot tow empty, bottoms out the suspension just attempting to hook on. So you have a locking toolbox on front of bed or integated into a flatdeck. Trailer stays on site or is unloaded and leaves, truck brings the incidentals out as needed with the crew. Look, i don't know why Europeans like to pretend theyve never heard of a toolbox. Scale of the roads and trailer here is just different, and masons, electricians and plumbers do use vans. Carpenters usually not.

[–] Crackhappy 6 points 7 months ago

This is what I do. I need a truck maybe once every year.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

I've also heard "mall terrain vehicle"

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

I've never heard the term before, but my first guess would be someone who has a castle on wheels. So an SUV owner, or pickup owner who doesn't actually use it for its intended purpose.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

A Chelsea tractor.

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[–] mojofrododojo 22 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Met a guy a few days ago who had just purchased a new Chevy Silverado. The hood was at his shoulder. He installed a front camera because he can't see shit from the driver's seat. It's not even lifted.

When will the lawsuits for these fundamentally unsafe designs start?

[–] captainlezbian 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 20 points 7 months ago (7 children)

Wtf is a pavement princess

[–] [email protected] 38 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 24 points 7 months ago

See also "Triggered by literally anything they don't understand"

[–] AngryCommieKender 24 points 7 months ago

A truck/ off road vehicle owned by someone that never uses it for it's intended purpose.

There's a scene at the end of the first Cars movie with the military jeep yelling at a group of them that mud won't hurt them

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago (3 children)

To be fair I know few people with back problems and they say that full suspension enduro bike is their solution to ride anywhere. Even on roads.

They just need the cushioning of the rear suspension to not get their back wrecked on the first bump they ride on.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Not arguing, just curious - would suspension seatposts or stems help? Having to haul a full squish bike around i imagine would feel heavy/sluggish

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

Maybe, it was few years ago when we chatted about it, and suspension seatposts are niche product so they probably didn't knew about it.

[–] mojofrododojo 4 points 7 months ago

this also lead me to longboarding - I loved skating short decks as a kid, but the vibration transmitted from street skateboard wheels wrecks my ability to enjoy it with knee and back pain. big, squishy longboard wheels just eat the cracks and rocks up and I can ride for hours.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

This is why I like a neutral riding position with the pegs below my hips, I can stand out of the saddle and let the bike bump over whatever. Cruisers with the pegs too forward to stand on, or crotch rockets where you're doing a pushup anyway, don't easily allow for that.

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