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This will have been drawn from the work of Erin Reed Though its worth noting her only firm, DO NOT TRAVEL, so far, is florida. Though the rest are of course still dangerous.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This has been the map of places I'm willing to travel since the 80's... I guess not much has progressed

[–] alphanerd4 4 points 3 months ago
[–] Pete_topkevinbottom 20 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I'd say most places in PA aren't very trans friendly. It might be better in Pittsburgh,Harrisburg and Philly. But pretty much everywhere else is a bunch of redneck pennsyltuckyians

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

Might as well slice California into just the bay and LA/SD too. In the North state a lot of it is very backwoodsy folk.

[–] CannedCairn 3 points 3 months ago

Welcome fellow pennsyltyuckian.

[–] antidote101 20 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

But lots of states have safe trains and railroads, there aren't that many crashes or derailments of passanger trains.

Joking aside, has anyone heard of The Green Book?

Compiled by Victor Hugo Green (1892–1960), a Black postman who lived in the Harlem section of New York City, the Green Book listed a variety of businesses—from restaurants and hotels to beauty salons and drugstores—that were necessary to make travel comfortable and safe for African Americans in the period before the passage of the 1964 civil rights act.

Maybe something similar could be done for traveling modern America?

[–] eldavi 11 points 3 months ago

i love this idea and i think that the biggest hurdle to overcome is s similar one that martin luther king jr encountered: moderates who don't believe that they're prejudiced.

for example: when gay marriage was a hotly contested issue; i lost track of the number of times straight people would insist it was good enough that gays can have all the rights of marriage in domestic partnerships without actual marriage and call themself an ally in the same breath.

there's also plenty of examples of businesses happily taking money from gays while claiming to be allies and simultaneously spending that money on lobbying for anti-gay laws. eg chik-fil-a, gold's gym, salvation army, etc.

[–] alphanerd4 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

I have.

https://onlysky.media/ccassidy/the-good-old-days-refuted-by-a-single-book/

This article makes a glorious point. If I ever move to the US I'm gonna buy this book and carry it around any time I expect to argue with a certain kind of red-hatted folk.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago

I'm cisheterowhitedude and I hate going to backwoods places. It's not that I'm in danger, I just don't want to deal with chuds or pay any money that might support them in any way. So I stick to this map also

[–] dhorse 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

As someone FROM AZ their has been a lot of positive change for LGBQT communities, but I would not recommend being out as Trans in public other than known safe spaces. Would love to hear from someone who is still there to tell me I am wrong.

[–] RedAggroBest 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Really depends. It's a big state lol. Anywhere in Tucson or Flagstaff? Safe as safe can be. The valley is a mixed bag based on which part you're in but generally okay. Anywhere rural is also gonna be pretty hit-or-miss, but for the love of all that you hold dear do not go into The Mojave, Idc how much someone loves Fallout.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

All of them are "relatively" safe. As in, its better than the vast majority of the world. Its still not great though.

[–] captainlezbian 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Ohio is mixed. The cities are safe except when occupied by the fascist paramilitary groups like the proud boys. The rural areas are dangerousish

[–] BallsandBayonets 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

That can be said of many states. Is Illinois actually that welcoming outside of Chicago?

[–] captainlezbian 3 points 3 months ago

Fair, I think the big thing is about the state laws

[–] alphanerd4 2 points 3 months ago

Yes, it’s the Catholicism

[–] Feathercrown 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You didn't have to do NH like that

[–] RedSeries 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Having been there, it's better this way. Truly the armpit of New England.

[–] jeansburger 8 points 3 months ago

It's the South of the North

[–] Etterra 7 points 3 months ago

Chicagoland welcomes you. Don't go downstate though. The further south you go the more Kentucky it gets.

[–] Gigan 5 points 3 months ago (3 children)

What's happening to trans people in the other states?

[–] alphanerd4 5 points 3 months ago

not much change on a day to day basis, but its huge in terms of codifying the brutal arrests that are already common throughout the US. But Yes, increased risk of frivolous arrest, extrajudicial violence, democide. 'A reinstitution of republican principles',. not sure how else to say...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/24-of-transgender-adults-report-access

It was never about "grooming", or protecting the kids, or women's sports. If it was, they wouldn't need to lie in their propaganda.

https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/delete-this-mistaken-victory-claims

There are organized groups in this country that want trans people to disappear, and if that means making life so intolerable that suicides happen and removing healthcare mandatory for well-being, well. Can't make an omelette without cracking a few eggs, right?

https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/ohio-michigan-republicans-in-released

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I'm not trans, so I can't speak with full certainty here. But places I've lived and visited in the South, generally I wouldn't label as outright dangerous. From what I've heard and seen, it's probably more dangerous to be black in those parts, as some places in GA for example still have sundown towns.

I've met a number of trans people here who don't remark notably about safety any more than the typical "I have to be careful going out at night cause I'm not able to defend myself" which is not representative of all the LGBTQ folk I met of course and would apply equally to a smol gal.

So while I don't want to discredit you, I really don't think this notion that you've been led to believe holds any water at least from my experience which is admittedly likely not worth much.

But now I'm curious whether the LGBTQ population is by chance more concentrated in these "safe" states? That seems like a more enlightening metric on its own, actually knowing a demographical metric rather than getting just an ominous "avoid everywhere but here"

[–] captainlezbian 7 points 3 months ago

I would never pee in West Virginia outside of a private residence. In my home state of Ohio I’m uncomfortable being in certain parts of the state unless I’m with cis people or driving through.

Safety is a relative term. There are certain areas people avoid, maybe it’s a bad part of town. I avoid certain parts of my state as the bad parts of my state because hate crimes go unpunished there because what flies in hocking hills doesn’t in Cincinnati and vice versa.

Also I avoid the proud boys when they match with guns unless I’m part of an organized anti fascist group that’s there for them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Until proven otherwise, I'm now under the notion that this map actually represents the authors "places I would care to go"

[–] alphanerd4 5 points 3 months ago

I linked the source. It’s just a map of places that havent instituted any anti-trans laws in the last three years.

[–] TheControlled 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What happened in New Hampshire?

[–] WoahWoah 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

NH is the south of the northeast.

[–] Retrograde 1 points 3 months ago

That's rough