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The country is breaking apart but I guess is more important to avoid using feminine expressions on official papers that make us look homo or something

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[–] Skullgrid 28 points 4 months ago (2 children)

If he was actually "libertario liberal" like he keeps saying, he'd allow people to use whatever type of language they want.

I guess he's not an anarcho capitalist, but a fucking conservative slimesack and all round crazy person wielding a chainsaw and talking to dogs for political advice (NB : what I just said can be fact checked and verified, and is not a joke)

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

a fucking conservative slimesack

Yes, that is exactly what ancaps and libertarians turns out to be when in any power. It's an Actually Existing Libertarianism.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Eh. Politically viable libertarians make a shitload of concessions to reach that viability. Dude's views on women's rights would make most Libertarians/ancaps I know refuse to vote for him.

[–] Skullgrid 2 points 4 months ago

If only they could make the compromises on their views on economic liberty instead of personal freedoms

[–] PilferJynx 0 points 4 months ago

Man, why can't people allow other people to do whatever they want with their own body? If you want me to call you Turbs, the sly cat from furryland, you got it, buddy.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Meanwhile on the economic side:

[–] Shardikprime 0 points 4 months ago

It doesn't matter to me, but I understand that the prohibition applies to official documents (which frankly seems fine to me because they have to be as neutral as possible) and nothing more.

It's not that for saying "TODES" in an AFIP department they're going to cut you off.

Basically, you can talk like a mental retard if you want, but in official communication a certain degree of professionalism and correctness is expected.

In the same way that an official document should never say "tipo asi como ke ah re que la ley esta que zakamos esta ree picada perro, se prohibe la letra EEE" If you want to talk like that, you donyou, in official settings, NO.

The best thing is that the 2,000 departments of the state stop spending on "educational" resources. Don't forget that there is gender management secretary, which is 50 people per entity because it is required some type of gender graduate to "authorize" that the communication is correctly following the norms on a gender focus.

Well, no, now it is not necessary to spend a fortune on "educational" resources.

Waste of money like few others

But muh freedomz!

Don't take "freedom" as an absolute of "ah, so I can do whatever I want ña ña". The regulations still exist. In this case because the official documents are written in the official language. Not with idioms, not with slang, not with emojis, not with cartoons, not with colloquial language.

And that doesn't make you "less free."

If someone in public administration wants to write text message style documentation? They can't, is that going against freedom? No.

But it is not prohibiting freedom in a private sphere, it is in official documents. If tomorrow at work I start writing technical documentation in Esperanto, they will put a bullet in my ass.

So, no brother, you can't write public documents however you want, because everyone has to understand you. It's a job. Inclusive language promotes a political agenda that the voters of this government do not share.

The big problem Kirchnerists have behind this is that inclusive language ended up becoming Kirchnerist language. It became something of the party's identity. If the intention had really been to change the way people express themselves, the strategy of sticking it to specifically this party didn't work. They should have sought followers across the political spectrum.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

No one here speaks Spanish or more importantly, from Latin America, eh? So-called Inclusive language sounds removed in a Latin language that has male and female names, pronouns and nouns for everything. English is not Spanish. Cultures are different. History is different.

This is why most actual Latin people from Latin America think made up BS terms like LatinX have to come from people from 1st world countries who are not only out of touch, but also, and as always, think they know better about how the rest of the world should live their own lives. Damn, the entitlement or NA.

They all BS and virtue signal about how bad 'colonialism' is, yet they can't stop trying to dump their crap on everyone else. Let them do want they want. It is their country. They voted the guy in and I am not going to pretend that I know better than them. You might be surprised but 3rd world people have more serious shit to care about than outing X's at the end of words.

Milei is nuts, but I think people are not aware how shitty Argentina has been for a while. Seems Argentinians wanted a break from their own internal crap from before, not sure if he is going to be better, but at least he is different. For the record, if I could I would never vote for him. But I am not Argentian who lobes in Argentina. Are you?

For those wondering, inflation was going to happen, Argentina was running on crazy, worsening debt for almost 20 years. He said he was going to bring austerities, he did, inflation was going to happen, either way. To blame it squarely on him, as if it was his direct fault is like blaming Obama for 9/11 or Biden for the Iraq war. It meant that Argentina had to take even worse debt if austerities did not happen. They were going to be fucked either way. The best it can be said is that they are now less fucked than what they could have been, otherwise.

Not that it should matter, but since some NA people are bound to think it, I am a Liberal, not a Con. Just not blind nor an idealogue.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Im from Latin America and I speak Spanish. The inclusive language in oficial documents, what Milei is attacks, isn't putting X at the end of words (that nobody uses, people use e instead) but including the feminine when talking about groups of people, for example instead of saying "los trabajadores se van a joder y perder sus derechos" is saying "los trabajadores y las trabajadoras se van a joder y perder sus derechos" it's literally just adding a couple of words to the way you talk.

[–] OhmsLawn 1 points 4 months ago

I appreciate your example language. That sounds like it could be a direct quote!