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submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by TravisKelce to c/technology
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[–] [email protected] 117 points 10 months ago (3 children)

And before anyone starts the discussion all over again... That's 70,000 customers who have reported outages on a single site, and is by no means indicative of the total number of customers who are actually without service.

[–] BigMikeInAustin 72 points 10 months ago (3 children)

"If we stop counting, then the problem will stay small." - an "unpresidented" cheeto

[–] ObsidianZed 14 points 10 months ago

Thanks, I forgot about that.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah that worked out so well...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

I mean, it did. It made republicans even more averse to facts.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Dammit. Now I want Cheetos...

[–] mipadaitu 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Doesn't help that the title implies that's the actual count, not the number of reported problems from one website.

Normally ArsT is pretty good about that, but I guess in the race to publish first, they put up a poor title.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Yeah I agree, it should have at least said something like "have reported service issues..." Of course the article makes that more obvious, but even the comments below the original article were filled with people who didn't read it.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Can't even sign into AT&T to view/report the outage. You can (conveniently enough) sign in to pay your bill if you want. AFAIK, the 70k number is the number of reports at Downdetector. It's probably 100s of thousands affected, if not millions.

[–] DoomBot5 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Honestly, that makes sense. Outage reporting service is nice to have. A way to pay your bills is a requirement. They clearly have different SLAs.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

The other commenter said "bill", but you added the S. I got the impression that you could log in to pay your AT&T bill and nothing else. And if the service being billed for is down, maybe it's ok if people don't pay that particular bill right away...

[–] Cannonhead2 37 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago

It was BGP

"According to an industry source who spoke on the condition of anonymity, the root of the outage appeared to be related to how cellular services hand off calls from one network to the next, a process known as peering. "

https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/22/tech/att-cell-service-outage/index.html

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 34 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Yes. Except when it's BGP.

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It was BGP

"According to an industry source who spoke on the condition of anonymity, the root of the outage appeared to be related to how cellular services hand off calls from one network to the next, a process known as peering. "

https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/22/tech/att-cell-service-outage/index.html

[–] Cannonhead2 3 points 10 months ago

Where's my $20?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

I would have also put 20 down on an expired certificate

[–] nemanin 33 points 10 months ago (2 children)

A communication disruption can mean only one thing: INVASION!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

Right? Like don't get my hopes up

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I can't wait to hear all the conspiracy theories and references to "Leave the World Behind."

[–] blazeknave 2 points 10 months ago

You didn't react at all differently this time around after having seen it?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

Not only ATT but T-Mobile and Verizon customers too.

Primarily looks to be in the south from what heat maps I saw, kinda sorta near backbone hubs.

Could be a result of shit infrastructure/weather or an attack (which is also a result of shit infrastructure) but no real info afaik has been released.

[–] 1995ToyotaCorolla 7 points 10 months ago

I live in the upper midwest and we were hit by it too. Myself and a bunch of my co-workers were without service until about an hour ago. We're mostly AT&T and Verizon around here

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Didn't a solar flare just hit us today? I assume that's the reason

[–] DoomBot5 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That would disproportionately impact further north not south.

[–] Everythingispenguins 2 points 10 months ago

Dam Yankee solar flare, always trying to take down the south. /s

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[–] LordWiggle 15 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Is AT&T not known for not working in general?

[–] LifeOfChance 13 points 10 months ago

First time in 15y I had issues.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

That's how I know them

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Where I am they're pretty reliable, and have better coverage than Verizon. My company provides a Verizon hotspot for work on the road, but I had to add hotspot to my at&t plan because Verizon leaves me without service too often.

I'm not affected by this outage where I'm at, but my wife at home lost service and had to restart her phone to get it back.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

I'm not affected by this outage where I'm at,

This didn’t appear to be location based. I’m on a family vacation with 7 total people on AT&T and 3 of us were affected and 4 were fine. Didn’t have anything to do with the model of phone, the plan you were on, or your location/tower you were connected to. Seemed to just straight up be random. Also a reboot fixed one phone, but not the other 2.

[–] LordWiggle 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I'm not from the US, I only know AT&T from Last Week Tonight where John Oliver made fun of them many many times.

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[–] paf0 3 points 10 months ago

It depends. Every carrier has better or worse spectrum and/or tower coverage depending on where you are.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Interestingly last week a UK network provider had a day - 2 day outage across the entire UK by the sounds of it.

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