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Microsoft to force-update your Windows 11 22H2/21H2 PC to 23H2 as it keeps training its ML (www.neowin.net)
submitted 10 months ago by [email protected] to c/technology
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[–] [email protected] 83 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

Dear God, bad headline

Rolling out isn't a forced update. Microsoft uses machine learning to determine when a computer should receive a big feature update. These are gradual, similar to how how Steam staggers your game updates by default. Machines qualified by the model to have a "good" upgrade experience get updated first. This is to 1. not strain global delivery and local networks too much 2. be able to stop the rollout if anything goes wrong.

All the message they analyzed from MS meant was that as the EOL of previous Win11 version nears, they're starting to rollout the update to all PCs. You can still disable automatic updates.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This community has a heavy bias against Windows. Expect more of those kinds of headlines to show up in here.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago

That's very understandable. I also hate Windows, but not to the point of fake headlines.

[–] cm0002 12 points 10 months ago

not strain global networks to much

I have personally witnessed what mass Windows updates can do to a network on a smaller scale on a college campus when I used to work IT for one

For the longest time (They eventually got around to fixing this, I was just hell desk at the time so not my problem) whenever patch Tuesday would roll around everything network wise came to a screeching halt for a solid hour while all the windows machines would update

[–] DingoBilly 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

But Linux good, Windows bad? This entirely reasonable approach doesn't sound right.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

You think we only hate Windows because we think they force updates?

[–] [email protected] 38 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Just another reason to ditch Microsoft wherever possible.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago

Just did this.

Origin:

[–] dylanTheDeveloper 25 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Microsoft can force update Deez nuts

[–] londos 2 points 10 months ago

Got ems!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

newest cersion of tiny 11 released recently, can disable copilot if u want

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble 7 points 10 months ago (3 children)

And yet when I want to install 23H2 I can’t get windows update to offer it. Thanks Microsoft.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

That's what the article actually means beneath the clickbait: They're going to start offer 23H2 to all PCs, not just these that their ML model thinks have had a "good" update experience. See my comment above.

To get the latest versions, just turn on “Get the latest updates as soon as they’re available,” and select Check for updates, which is what the article quoted.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They're rolling it out gradually, as is customary for routine updates.

I'm not sure why this is worthy of a headline, frankly. This is how Microsoft typically does these things. I guess it's the "...with AI involved somehow!" Bit in the title that makes it interesting? I expect that's going to get old fairly quickly.

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble 3 points 10 months ago

I've never had issues trying to force it to give me the latest update in the past. I spent like an hour doing everything in my power to get it to install without downloading the full 6 gig iso, but I guess if I want to update this device I guess I'll have to.

I have multiple other devices running Windows 11 and none of them had any issues getting the "upgrade to 23H2" prompt. Not sure why this one is such a problem.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Just go straight to their catalog and download it directly? That’s always been an option for virtually every update ever.

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Can you? I can't find the update anywhere on the page.

I found this, which googling the enablement stuff gets me a link to windows 11 forum which supposedly has that enablement.

Oh lmao.

Microsoft Update Catalog No

[–] Gazumi 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

BloatNosey latest version might help ( I hope).

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

Someone down voted you 🤦‍♂️