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Chinese fishing vessels are going scorched earth and pumping cyanide into contested waters, Philippine fishing authority says (www.businessinsider.com)

submitted 10 months ago by [email protected] to c/world

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[–] RestrictedAccount 85 points 10 months ago (1 children)

FWIW From the article

But the Philippine coast guard on Sunday said it hadn't found any evidence of Chinese fishermen using cyanide and couldn't confirm the fisheries bureau's accusation.

"We don't have any scientific study or any evidence that would suggest that cyanide fishing in Bajo de Masinloc can be attributed to the Chinese or the Vietnamese fishermen," GMA News quoted a coast-guard spokesperson, Commodore Jay Tarriela, as saying.

The Philippines' fishing industry was known to use cyanide fishing back in the 1960s to capture live fish for aquariums and restaurants, though the practice has become less common. In 2023, a study from the Coastal Conservation and Education Foundation in Cebu, the Philippines, found that some Filipino fishermen still used cyanide in the South China Sea.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago

Yeah this publication, if included in those "hundreds" is a truly great example of bias in reporting.

It's not like we aren't sprayed with propaganda daily too, this joke of an article is a great example of it.

[–] jaybone 55 points 10 months ago (4 children)

And then in another Lemmy thread right now, praise for the Chinese on their affordable EVs that will save the environment.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Depending on where you go, it's either "this country is a fascist regime as reported by these hundreds of outlets worldwide and here's the shady shit they're doing"

"This tragically misunderstood DEMOCRACY (they call their leader PRESIDENT not DICTATOR emoji spam) is leading the world in literally every metric, have made 10,000 breakthroughs in every science but THE WEST won't let them share, here's 3 state sponsored media outlets confirming what I just said gif spam"

Not a whole lot in between.

[–] TrickDacy 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And any argument against China will be summarized "China bad" in bad faith argument so brazen that it's almost impressive. For example, TikTok is blameless because if you oppose it, you're just saying "China bad". Fuck the Internet sometimes.

[–] shartedchocolate 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Fuck the internet sometimes indeed. https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/IN/IN12131

[–] TrickDacy 4 points 10 months ago

fAcEbOoK dOeS iT tOo ThO

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I've blocked exactly one person on Lemmy and it's Yothgos or Yogthos or whatever the fuck their name is. They're either a propagandist in China or just a very sad person who posts prolifically about how amazing China is, dismissing any criticism against it. It's weird, sad, and annoying seeing them pop up in any thread about China. I assume they have or will pop in this thread but I don't know as they're blocked.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

I am convinced it’s a Chinese propaganda account shared by multiple people and/or bots.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

well it says in the article they have no proof and this is just a hunch...

and ive seen enough of these to be suspicious every time.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It’s almost as if nuanced discussion is discouraged on platforms like this.

[–] postmateDumbass -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Decent discussion get bridaged and muddled by those who want to maintain status quo.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

its not the chinese wanting status quo though

[–] postmateDumbass 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Anyone with an exploit wants to keep exploiting it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

what exploit?

[–] postmateDumbass -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Its a generic statement.

Any actual human should have been able to understand the significance of the sentance.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

are there exploits or you just think there are?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

Read the article instead of the gotcha title.

The Philippines has been known to use cyanide for fishing for the past 60 years. The Philippines coast guard says they haven't found any actual evidence that China is using cyanide in the area.

The only proven thing, according to the article is that China is being a huge dick and forcefully trying to claim areas of the sea they have no right to and overfishing the area while keeping a lot of Philippine fishers out.

There's a small handful of countries being total dicks right now around the world. Nato needs to grow a pair and sanction the hell out of them. Russia, n Korea, China, and a few other countries just need fully cut off and have a non negotiable and irrevocable minimum 25 year sanction put in place. That would be long enough that other manufacturers and companies/countries would invest in picking up and creating supply lines and manufacturing facilities. No one would be willing to invest in picking up the slack if they know it's only short term. Keep them in a damned box.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Maybe painting 1.4 billion people with the same brush is a bad idea. Who'd have guessed?

[–] [email protected] 33 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

"We don't have any scientific study or any evidence that would suggest that cyanide fishing in Bajo de Masinloc can be attributed to the Chinese or the Vietnamese fishermen," GMA News quoted a coast-guard spokesperson, Commodore Jay Tarriela, as s

so just a hunch being spun as news. this smells propagandish to me.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago

An act of war that will spite their own face.