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Spambots are abusing this fact

.ml admins fix pls

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The spammers are taking advantage of open fediverse instances - and it's not one, but instances chosen at random. You may think that banning instances would solve it, but it will block other legit users.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Some of the automod bots are also filtering and blocking posts based on the content as well (RegEx, confidence rating based on the age of the account and upvote/downvote ratio, presence of rarely seen domains in URLs), so that helps a bit.

[–] MrKaplan 5 points 5 months ago

Most of these are unfortunately limited to local instance moderation, which means all instances that don't run these bots don't benefit from them.

The posts have already been modified in ways that they aren't as easy to reliably filter anymore, though still possible with fairly low false positive rate.

To add to this, depending on how content is removed, removal may or may not federate properly. on Lemmy.World, we've been removing content in a way that reliably federates, so while a lot of this spam does arrive in [email protected] and [email protected], the removals on Lemmy.World should federate to all other instances (0.18.5+).

The other portion of the spam is mostly on Lemmy.ml, in [email protected] and [email protected], and not all of their removals have been done in a way that federates.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Lemmy cannot solve the spam issue sadly, this not something the devlopers who built it think about.

Even if mods blocked every instance that has spam, as more instances become avaliable, it would be easy to spam or troll lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 5 months ago (2 children)

It's weird.. I haven't seen a single spam post here. Only posts about the spam posts. I don't think I have any filtering on my end. Not that I'm complaining, but why don't I see them?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Because your instance admins bulk deleted the posts directly in the database, which doesn't federate to other instances.

Quick and dirty fix because Lemmy is currently ill equipped to delete mass spam originating from many different accounts, but it means people from other instances still see all the spam and the lemmy.ml based moderators can't do much because it's already gone on their side.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago

There's a few open issues on lemmy for this (federating deletes when banning non-local users), when I get some time I'll work on them.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

The spam I noticed was yesterday, might have been removed by the time you came online, since they where identical and likely easy for your admins to filter out.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Would be a good time to open a request on /c/[email protected] for those who are willing to step up.

EDIT: even better would be /c/[email protected]

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

thanks for pointing this out.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago
[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Looks like some group or individual is spamming fediverse seeing a lot of complaints on mastodon too

https://mastodon.ml/@ZySoua/111948364626085599

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I'm happy to help moderate. I currently mod several small communities here on lemmy including [email protected] and [email protected] and would gladly add this one. I also have experience modding some reddit subs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I’m happy to help moderate.

thanks!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago
[–] [email protected] -4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Way to kill a community if you can't keep it clean appoint someone who will .