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[–] [email protected] 78 points 9 months ago

The difference is: One you do for fun and one you're told to do for money.

[–] [email protected] 76 points 9 months ago (3 children)

You can use a JavaScript to assembly converter so you get the same pain on your personal projects.

[–] kautau 23 points 9 months ago

Tell me more, I’ve almost achieved webasm

[–] AeonFelis 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Wouldn't that just be a JavaScript compiler?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Well, if you put it that way ... yes.

[–] chellomere 7 points 9 months ago

Is there a 6502 backend?

[–] [email protected] 62 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Amazing how you can work 8 hours without it ever stopping being 1 am. Human beings really are amazing when they are motivated

[–] [email protected] 35 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Motivation: AKA, Chronic Insomnia.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago

Sometimes programming is my zone.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

Nah, being engrossed in something you’re enjoying can consume time like nothing.

Same as the “just one more” turn phenomenon with games.

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[–] Rednax 56 points 9 months ago (5 children)

But I love coding at work?!

The problem is that every living entity in a 10 kilometer radius around me, seems to be hellbent on getting me to do anything but coding. Refining work estimates, fixing badge access rights, fixing a driver issue, telling people that you cannot do 1000 things at the same time, teaching the new developer how shit (doesn't) works, mangling Jenkins into a functional state again, explaning that thing I did a year ago but is only now used (it was very high prio a year ago), writing documentation that noboby ever reads, progress meetings, specialty group meetings, knowledge sharing meetings, company wide meetings, etc.

[–] Freesoftwareenjoyer 11 points 9 months ago

You can always write code for Free Software projects in your free time and contribute to a good cause.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Just say no. Decline meeting requests. Set your own priorities. It’s not like they can fire the guy who operates the CI and apparently the physical security systems as well while still writing code for high priority projects.

[–] psud 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I had a team of contractors working on some code. They had learnt in their previous jobs to document everything in the work wiki (aside from the design documents which have their own repository)

And it was good they did, since the project was put on hold due to too much mismatch between backend and front, and all the contractors were fired (a day before Xmas) leaving the useless doco as the best reference for whoever needs to resurrect our code

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Agreed on all of that. As I understand it, periods of better worker markets make for less of that nonsense people are willing endure. I've seen a recent trend of corporations turning up the BS because the job market has been tightening up and people are less willing to take risks.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yep, programming is fun but working as a programmer not so much. For me writing software is a creative activity. It's fun to come up with problems and find solutions for them. In my personal projects I decide what problem I want to solve, choose the technology I think will be fun to solve it in and then come up with a solution I like.

At work you are usually handed a problem you don't care about (we're decommissioning X, you don't have to know why, just change everything to use Y), the solution is described in detail by someone else and you just have to turn it into some code using 5-10 years old stack.

Fortunately at my current job I mostly do projects without much technical oversight (proof-of-concept type project) so I can choose how I want to do then. I dislike the company culture but I know that moving somewhere else would mean going back to boring coding agian.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

Where I work there is a hardware test, where the voltage needs to be changed on the power supply like 8 times. Currently it's done by hand.

I gave that to a student with the description that I want that automated, let production show you how the test is done. If you have other ideas how to improve it, just do it.

This was 8 working days ago for the student. She still hasn't started, because she wants an exact description what needs to be done. If you want me to write down how exactly everything needs to be done, I might just write it myself in python and be done with it.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (5 children)

What are you doing in assembly?

[–] herrvogel 65 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Manually optimizing the code I wrote in C, so that it runs noticeably slower and has all sorts of stupid bugs that weren't there before. All in a good night's work.

[–] Coreidan 7 points 9 months ago (3 children)

That doesn’t sound like optimization.

[–] Freesoftwareenjoyer 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No worries, he can optimize it later.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Put a refactor ticket in the backlog. We'll get to it eventually, right?

[–] Freesoftwareenjoyer 12 points 9 months ago

// TODO: fix this code

[–] herrvogel 9 points 9 months ago

To you, maybe.

[–] Hellstormy 5 points 9 months ago

It's just reverse optimizing!

[–] marcos 6 points 9 months ago

Well, I guess it's either writing a device driver or that.

And the device driver will always end-up with most code in C or Rust.

[–] ikidd 39 points 9 months ago
[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

Assembling.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

Pretending I was born 40 years earlier

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

Doing vector operations because the MCU vendor didn't provide APIs for it.

(did not actually do that but was preparing to before we came to our senses and ditched that MCU)

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago (2 children)

At least with your assembly code it'll go brrrrrrrt because of how fast it'll be.

[–] qaz 10 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Assuming it actually works

[–] Hellstormy 9 points 9 months ago

I always have problems with assembly. Especially after being at Ikea.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

My assembly code only goes brt :(

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

it reaches 't' from 'b' with a lot less iterations of 'r'. It seems to me that you have a more optimized version. :)

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Why is this literally the opposite for me?

I have a class where I write in Assembly but instead I'm working on my personal HTML/CSS/JS project.

[–] meliaesc 38 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

It's not the language that matters, it's the obligation vs passion.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

The result is still the same, isn't it? (in language you like vs in language you're forced to use)

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

Wonder if that's the "alienation of labor" thing Marx was talking about

[–] aubertlone 7 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The funny thing is, both of these are JavaScript for me.

I mean I guess TypeScript if I'm doing coding for work.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

My first job right out of college I was writing assembly for some epically old industrial equipment. That shit runs on its own language that was only ever used on that piece of equipment. Usually x86 but with some wacky modifications. There's no compiler for that, just a manual the size of a textbook and a million chicken scratch notes in it that's half covered in grease. I'm so glad I don't do that anymore.

[–] jaybone 6 points 9 months ago

That sounds like a nightmare.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Same. I participate on web game jams for fun.

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