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[–] [email protected] 123 points 9 months ago (3 children)

If you ditch the orgasm bit it’s kinda like sharks? Like it’d just be edgy instead of some weird vore-fetish thing

[–] EdibleFriend 71 points 9 months ago (2 children)

if you ditch the orgasm bit it's kind of like sharks?

This part, and this part alone, is my new guiding principal in life.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Including the question mark.

[–] EdibleFriend 13 points 9 months ago
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[–] VelvetStorm 32 points 9 months ago

FYI it's only some sharks. There are a goodly amout of sharks that lay eggs.

[–] M137 5 points 9 months ago
[–] [email protected] 62 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 27 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Oh, it gets worse.

Don't look up what blessing Gruumsh's wife gave to the orcs.

[–] FrozenCorgi 22 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Tried looking that up but can't really find anything, what is the controversy there?

[–] [email protected] 47 points 9 months ago (4 children)

I guess you do need some background information, especially because Wizards sure doesn't like spelling it out anymore.

In older editions it was assumed nearly all half-orcs were the offspring of rape, and "the blessing of Luthic" was given to make orcs fertile with nearly every other race.

The implications were clear, even more once you start diving into things like orcish society being a rigid patriarchy with a slave economy and one of Luthic's domains being not just servitude, but specifically female servitude.

[–] Stern 73 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 76 points 9 months ago (2 children)

In early DnD's defense, monster races were objectively, comically evil, and players were pretty heavily incentivised to pick humans (and assumed to be played by extremely nerdy guys), so it wasn't supposed to come up that much.

The fantasy was in killing the cannibal rape monsters, freeing their slaves, and not having to ask yourself "Are we the baddies doing an imperialism?" for burning down the orc village.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 9 months ago (4 children)

My dad used to play red box D&D (which I believe was the first edition ever released). Still has some manuals, which I got the chance to read.

Not only it was encouraged to play humans, it was assumed! You didn't get to pick a race, only a class. And while the classes of "elf" (think like 5e's ranger) and "dwarf" (5e's barbarian, sort of) were a thing, all of the other classes assumed for the player to be a human. You couldn't play an elf wizard: you either are an elf OR a wizard. Wild stuff, compared to some of the crazy stuff we get to do in modern D&D.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

Like these?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

If your first-level halfling is wearing plate mail, you may be playing Red Box D&D.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago

Early DND sounds a lot like pulp comics.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

so, the evil version of big booba goblins?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

you're asking if horny people had the idea to give massive honkers to the small green people and make their whole schtick to bonk everyone they see?

if that's a question that needs to be asked you should treasure your innocence

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

I can't seem to find the reference, but I think an echo of this made it into 5e, where the offspring of orcs and other races were always half-orcs.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

Could not really find anything but that Luthic is a fertility goddess of sorts. Which seems rather normal.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Lolth is an edgelord that makes all the other gods cringe.

[–] Sanctus 56 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Umm, what? Anything that has gestation similar to a human is probably incapable of this. Could you imagine these fucking alien beans duckin' and dodgin' in utero to slaughter each other with nubby hands and fingers? Lmao this is some Morrowind concept art shit

[–] [email protected] 34 points 9 months ago (1 children)

More like The Binding of Isaac. Only game in which aborting yourself can result in a positive outcome.

[–] Sanctus 6 points 9 months ago

The ascension endings were rough in that game.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"Aww, he's got his dad's knife" - never a phrase you want to hear in the delivery room.

(I assume this is how drow genetics work)

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] Jiggle_Physics 8 points 9 months ago

Well, drow men generally do the physical fighting.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago

I'm sorry, but this is mild compared to the insanity that is Kirkbride's Morrowind lore. Gods... how I wish Bethesda hired him for TES 6

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

It's not unheard of for one (human) twin to absorb the other in the womb. It's more along the lines of a cellular mixup, though, rather than a battle. And of course the mother even being aware much less sensitive to it is nonsense.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

My favourite bit on drow related lore is from 2E. Non-drow followers of Eilistraee would do black face and travel the world as part of an effort to show drow could be peaceful. There is something hilarious to me about how well intentioned the author seems to be but completely oblivious to what it looks like.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Oh so Señor Chang in the D&D episode of Community.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

I mean, Chang is trying to be offensive, because he is a racist, this is very well established by the show and it's weird how few people understood that.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Wait, is this real? Surely this is parody, right?

[–] [email protected] 49 points 9 months ago

There are a number of really weird things with old D&D lore.

[–] Jiggle_Physics 42 points 9 months ago (3 children)

No this was the lore.

Hell one of 3.5 edition's strongest monsters, from the the published books, was the undead, aborted, fetus, that was the product of the rape of another god, or celestial/hell/abyssal creature, by a god of opposing alignment, like an angel raped by an evil god.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 9 months ago

They were just keeping with the strong tradition established by the Greeks and Romans of gods that rape everyone and everything.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

Not really sure what the hubub is. It's lore for a dark thing in a fantasy world. It's like an unpopular opinion on c/unpopularopinion . You don't like it, persay, but it's effective content.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

I literally spoke at my phone, call Dr. Googl

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Are you talking about Atropus? Or some other unborn God?

[–] Jiggle_Physics 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They are called atropals but are not kin to Atropus. Atropus is an actual god and is the size of a moon. Atropals are abominations and large size category, they also lack divine rank.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

Oh wow. I knew about them but I guess the FR wiki excised all the gross lore.

Atropals were a race of unfinished immortals modeled after the gods, stillborn godlings, who spontaneously rose as undead[3] abominations

Maybe I won't put those in my game. I was considering it because they seemed similar to Atropus, who is my ultimate big bad.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Folks could get away with so much edgy bulshit back then...

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

Once I accepted that I am cringe, I was free to be my true self. I am cringe, but I am free.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

That’s some amazing lore!

Did they remove it or something?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Never forget what they took from you

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