"Total victory"?
Sounds like this stain on humanity wants some kind of "final solution"
this post was submitted on 07 Feb 2024
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The thing is, it will never happen.
Sure, they might “win” in terms of military and/or stealing land. But as long as they keep oppressing, stealing and murdering - there will be people fighting against it.
Even if there’s no Palestinian left on Palestinian ground. There will be people from different countries fighting back. One way or another.
“If peaceful revolution is not possible, violent revolution is inevitable”.
This whole thing seems to be a never-ending cycle which makes me immensely sad. For both, the Palestinian people and the normal civilians of Israel.
From what I have read and heard, Israel haven’t seen any actual peace ever since they made the state. I think, they’ve been on ‘high alert for attacks’ ever since being made. Correct me if I’m wrong though.
I wouldn't say "never".
Peace can happen but the Israelis need to remove Netanyahu and elect somebody who actually wants a two state solution. After that, there's a whole lot of diplomacy from both sides needed, free Palestinian elections, stolen land being returned, removal of blockades and control of infrastructure, and so on.
It's not impossible, just really, really difficult. Especially with leadership on both sides not being especially interested in peace. That's why Bibi needs to be slung out of office ASAP. Nothing good will happen while that monster has power.
You're right in general, but Bibi is a symptom, not a cause. The Israeli public has always been pro-genocide, and they're shifting to, not away, from the right. We need to recognize that a solution is only possible if the international community forces Israel to compromise.
They need to decide if the next asshole strongman who promises to keep them safe is worth their vote, because the current one has completely failed them.
No, because you're forgetting, Palestines don't want peace either. They'll accept any deal they can get. But a soon as they rebuild...
Bang fighting starts again.
You’ve spoken with them?
Yes, well most of them.
It's literally in their fucking charter... Do you read?
NOT that Israel is any different, they don't plan on stopping until they have taken all that land... And probably finished the genocide their currently committing..
That’s just the price of being an invader nation. By definition, Israel can never know peace, only armistices between further acts of war. Unless they manage to genocide Palestinians world wide, they will always face attacks on their invader population/infrastructure/society. It’s a feature of colonization. Netanyahu knows this, but is trying to maintain his position by bringing home an unattainable victory.
It's not just Palestines, it's most of Muslims...
He thinks he's playing Risk. Except Palestinians are not little wooden cubes, they're fucking people.
No, Bibi is just training to climb Mount Midoriyama 完全制覇
Genocider openly stating genocidal intentions, again.
"Every visit from Blinken, instead of calming things down, it just makes things worse, we get more strikes, we get more bombing," said mourner Mohammad Abundi.
Probably because Biden has spent literally 50 years pledging unwavering support to Israel no matter what...
They know that as long as Biden is in office, they can do whatever they want.
And if it's trump, they just have to stroke his ego occasionally.
Israel wins no matter what, neither option will hold them accountable
Biden is only continuing a support of a country since that country's creation. No different than any other President since Truman.
At least Blinken is doing his job trying to make Peace.
Wearing the military strategy hat for a second, how exactly can he/the IDF achieve “total victory” over Hamas and de-militarize Gaza?
- Can the IDF actually physically achieve that goal (irrespective of laws or decency, just raw power) given the loss of people, machinery, and support from allies already felt?
- Can the Israeli state afford that kind of protracted engagement, given the use of reservists causes a huge negative cash flow with lost taxes and soldier payouts? War is expensive enough just from materiel and consumables.
- Can they afford to be occupied in Gaza that long, while Hezbollah continues to fire missiles across the northern border?
No, or not at least without putting the Israeli state as a whole at significant risk. It’s absurd to pretend that Gaza can be demilitarized, even if the IDF demolishes every house they can see. Before Hamas there was Fatah, before Fatah there was the fedayeen, before the fedayeen… you cannot kill the ideal of Palestinian statehood without a genocide.
They have nukes. So, like. It’d be fairly pyrrhic….
Nukes. Against who exactly? Nukes only hold value against nations and battle groups, not terrorists on your doorstep
Did I not say it would be pyrrhic?
You asked if they had the military power to wipe out Hamas, which, yes. They do. Using nukes would likely harm them at least as much as Gaza/west bank, even if it didn’t proceed to trigger mutually assured destruction.
"Continued military pressure is a necessary condition for the release of the hostages."
Wait, they still haven't changed their excuse? Even if it's known that it's the IDF that are slaughtering them?
Going for a "Final Solution" for the "Palestenian Problem" ...
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For fks sake, MediaBiasFactCheck is a propaganda op who even give a Highly Trustworth rate to the Times Of Israel who regularly publish proven bullshit.
Israel embraces war and war will never let them go