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The House on Tuesday failed to pass a standalone package for $17.6 billion in Israel aid amid opposition from both Republicans and Democratic leaders.

Because of resistance among members of the conservative House Freedom Caucus, House Speaker Mike Johnson had been forced to bring up the bill under a procedure that requires two-thirds majority of the House to approve it. That means he needed the support of a sizable number of Democrats to get behind it, and failed to cross that threshold.

Inside a closed caucus meeting Tuesday morning, House Democratic leadership made a forceful case against supporting the standalone Israel aid package to members. Dozens of Democrats exiting the meeting said they will be voting against the bill.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Can anyone explain why Israel needs aid when it's obvious they are quite well funded given their actions? A handful of guys with small arms killed some civilians. I don't see why they need billions of dollars to recover from that.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Yeah it's like watching Arnold Schwarzenegger beat the shit out of Vern Troyer while bystanders mull about asking "should we pin Vern's arms down for Arnold? He did throw a punch at Arnold so he totally deserves it."

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

That is a perfect metaphor right there

[–] [email protected] 0 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I'm gonna go ahead and preemptively mark you down as "unemployed" for your naked antisemitism.

EDIT: I refuse to use "/s", but FYI this was just a tongue-in-cheek comment about the overreaction of many in the US, especially in the early days of this current conflict...

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago

Genocide is thirsty work.

[–] Telodzrum 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The answer you get from people who seriously want to give them the aide for FA reasons are:

  1. Israel has historically relied upon Western (chiefly US) military assistance to maintain a significant stockpile and sophistication of arms and military preparedness to dissuade military action against it from its neighbors and other actors who are openly hostile its existence as a state;

  2. Israel's prosecution of its current conflict has significantly depleted those stockpiles of armaments to the point that they no longer constitute such a quantum as to provide adequate deterrence to an attack.

[–] Wrench 8 points 9 months ago

Then maybe they should have used a semblance of restraint in their response.

[–] sailingbythelee 0 points 9 months ago

I believe the reasoning is the same as the US went through with 9/11. It obviously wouldn't take billion of dollars to retaliate proportionally to October 7. Just like it wouldn't have cost a trillion dollars to retaliate in kind for 9/11. The cost escalates beyond all proportion when the goal is not just to retaliate in kind, but to eliminate the possibility of such an attack happening again.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Republicans are actively stopping action on the border and funding for our allies. Is that not treason, or something along those lines? This is the most un-American group of people I've seen in some time.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

Because they literally are un-American like the chode who commented that he doesn't want immigration or Russia defeated. As Henry Jones Sr. put it: "They are the slime of humanity."

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

No more genocide money, but, um, suck it, Republicans? I'm so conflicted right now.

[–] NatakuNox 8 points 9 months ago

They knew this would be the outcome but held the vote anyways. Such a waste of time and money. GOP is officially the do nothing party