I care about children which is why I won't support disarming people. I believe far more lives are saved and we have a much higher quality of life because of citizen owned firearms and this greatly outweighs the impact of the negatives of firearms including school shootings. Also I don't believe children should be terrorized for political reasons.
lemmyissupergay
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I think it's funny that the timeline you provided counts time since Jesus. The attempt to erase AD is interesting but it still counts time since Jesus.
Those "Exhibits" are interesting. The first I would counter that God does whatever God wants to do. People get hung up on that one a lot and think God needs to conform to their expectations. The second is a bit odd, people convert religious beliefs all the time. It's speaking to a certain audience that does believe or is questioning what they parents taught them. The last I would counter that of the 3,000 supposed Gods only one God has dominated the Earth resulting in a majority of people on the planet worshiping him.
Sure, I was talking about homicide, suicide is typically treated as a different problem. Most gun homicides are gang related. The media reports on gang violence but they don't fixate on it and demand solutions. There is clearly a demonstrable difference which is the point.
You're making a lot of assumptions about me. I'm merely pointing out that school shootings are very rare events and that the media does a lot to promote them.
The Uvalde shooting was 22/28 school shooting deaths in all of 2022 and was primarily a story of police incompetence. School shootings are incredibly rare events.
The right to self defense is not a hobby and many lives are saved by firearms. The majority of gun violence is due to gang activity. Why don't I hear politicians or people on social media like you decrying the problems of gangs? It seems there is a concerted effort to ignore the root of the problem and instead hyper focus on taking away guns. Have you ever seen a breaking news event when a gang member kills a child? I don't remember the President speaking out on those ones. Why not? Why don't I see Democrats or the President speaking out on gangs and trying to enact legislation to put an end to the organized crime that is behind most firearm deaths?
The original post was about schools, was it not? The media is hyper focused on schools because of the emotional aspect they can exploit to promote gun control. If they had to look outside of schools you could easily demonstrate that most shooting deaths are due to gang violence. The media doesn't want to talk about gang violence which is an actually solvable problem and involves already illegal activity. They only want to talk about taking away people's right to bear arms.
Lightning striking people is not one of the "most common" acts of nature. It is a freak event and that is the point of comparing the statistics. To try to get people like you to accept that you're obsessing over a vanishingly small issue by letting the media convince you it is a regular occurrence impacting everyone. Again there are 330 million people in the US and less than a couple dozen die per year in school shootings. The media could sensationalize pool drownings, people choking on pens, or any other number of things but they choose to promote school shootings in order to promote gun control.
How many people choke to death on pens every year? "On average, 100 to 4000 people choke to death on ball-point pens every year"
You're letting the media trick you and there is a reason powerful interests like the corporate media want you focused on getting rid of people's right to bear arms.
In 2023 there were 14 deaths from mass school shootings.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2023
In 2022 there were 28 deaths from mass school shootings.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2022
444 over 15 years is 29 a year
https://www.cdc.gov/disasters/lightning/victimdata.html
Maybe you should reconsider why you struggle to believe that school shootings are actually extremely rare freak events. It's likely because the media sensationalizes them and acts like they are a much larger problem than they really are in order to promote gun control.
No, it's not pointless. The point is that no one is demanding my rights be infringed because of hippo attacks. I don't get a breaking news alert when a hippo kills someone. School shootings are promoted by the media when in reality they should be treated like any other violent crime which is to say reported on but not in a sensationalized way to push a political agenda.
School shootings don't happen anywhere near weekly in the US. They are a freak event as I showed already. Other countries also have freak violent events that don't happen in the US. For example, acid attacks, car bombings, sword attacks, and so on.
In 2023 there were 14 deaths from mass school shootings.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2023
In 2022 there were 28 deaths from mass school shootings.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2022
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No. Gangs kills each other however they can, having firearms makes no difference. They might resort to things like explosive which are more damaging.