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[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago (2 children)

very strange this guy.. willing to go to jail over an orange turd.

evil coagulates, i guess

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Mafia employees have classically been willing to go to jail to protect their bosses because the alternative is ending up dead.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Except Trump is much closer to Harvey Weinstein than Al Capone. Donnie and Harvey both got away with it for years because the cost of prosecution was always prohibitive. None of Trump's people thought of themselves as soldiers, just employees doing what literally every other business was doing.

[–] Zippy 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Except other business rarely do what he engaged in. Public traded business even less likely as who would risk jail time for a simple job at the end of the day? Particularly when it factors little to none for your paycheck.

No there is nothing normal about what Trump has done. Or those that helped him.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Granted, Trump was an outlier, but he didn't create the shady practices he employed. It's normal for someone to steal towels or bathrobes from a resort; it's theft, but it's not something that usually gets a lot of attention. Donnie and his people saw their crimes that way, minor peccadillos that no one would ever actually care about.

[–] Zippy 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree with you there. I believe his enablers acted out of ego and the belief that as president any action he takes is lawful. This is why I think it is so important to charge and convict those involved as it will set an example for those to follow.

Legitimate governance has constitutions that are only as strong as they are willing to enforce then. Failing to enforce then essentially indicates they did no wrong and that a constitution has no meaning.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It takes two sides to have an agreement, but only one to start a fight. They were happy with 'law and order' as long as they got to pick the cops and judges.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Trump is much closer to Gob Bluth than he is either Weinstein or Al Capone. Weinstein was a POS of the highest order and I'm glad he's in prison with his dick rotting off, but he at least made money and movies. Trump isn't gonna leave behind anything but his weird adult children, the complete squander of his father's empire, and hopefully an electorate that gained some wisdom from its painful experience.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is my favorite Trump story. The tl, dr is that Trump had a golden opportunity to get in good with the Manhattan elites, and blew it through his own stupidity, greed, and arrogance.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaellisicky/2020/10/03/how-donald-trump-took-down-bonwit-teller-a-fifth-avenue-landmark/?sh=2563c8fe5f69

[–] Pretzilla 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Eerie parallels to the taliban destroying sacred Buddha monuments

His malignant narcissism and pathological lying on full display

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hadn't made the Taliban connection before. Thanks for the insight.

[–] Pretzilla 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

They both gently haunt my deep thoughts

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Back in 2015 I told a friend that Donald Trump was running for President. She said she really didn't want to have to think about Donald Trump at all. It's mind boggling that I've been forced to think about this idiot for almost a decade.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

oh snap! thanks!

[–] FuglyDuck 2 points 1 year ago

until somebody started singing. Then they all did.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My guess is he perjured himself early on to protect himself, not Trump. "In negotiations" to plead to as minor as crime as perjury for being at the very crooked center of Trump's whole empire translates into "I sang like a fuckin canary."

Anyone who worked as closely as he did with Trump for as long, has to know what the score is. I think he started severely regretting his past actions and bought himself a nice pair of bus-throwing-under gloves years ago.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

His eyes look miserable

He also looks like pretty much exactly like a fatter-necked poorly shaved George Bluth Sr.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Allen H. Weisselberg, a longtime lieutenant to Donald J. Trump, is negotiating a deal with Manhattan prosecutors that would require him to plead guilty to perjury, people with knowledge of the matter said.

As part of the potential agreement with the Manhattan district attorney’s office, Mr. Weisselberg would have to admit that he lied on the witness stand in Mr. Trump’s recent civil fraud trial, the people said.

The situation springs from a web of criminal and civil cases brought by the two agencies and would culminate a lengthy pressure campaign by the district attorney, Alvin L. Bragg, whose prosecutors had sought Mr. Weisselberg’s cooperation as they investigated whether Mr. Trump committed electoral and financial crimes.

In 2022, the attorney general, Letitia James, sued Mr. Trump, his adult sons and Mr. Weisselberg, accusing them of fraudulently exaggerating the value of the former president’s assets to obtain favorable loans from banks.

The article cited emails and notes between the former chief financial officer and the magazine, which compiles a list of America’s richest people, showed that Mr. Weisselberg “played a key role in trying to convince Forbes over the course of several years” of the apartment’s value.

In April, while Mr. Weisselberg was on Rikers Island, Mr. Bragg announced criminal charges against Mr. Trump stemming from what prosecutors say was the cover-up of the sex scandal in the final days of the 2016 presidential campaign.


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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Me on the news during a standoff. "YOU NEED TO STOP CALLING IT A STAND OFF! I AM NEGOTIATING MY CRIMES!

[–] DarkDecay 2 points 1 year ago

trump really is draining the swamp, one former colleague at a time lmao. Only the best people in that clown administration